No hot tub photo of the day Sept 29th

[wmccall]

[Richs100]

Hey Bill:

Ok, I'm not very educated about modern flight, but when I saw this pic, I immediately thought that it was not possible.  
Wouldn't the Steath (?) jet have to travel at a speed many times faster than old prop planes?
How could they travel together?

Rich

[ndabunka]

NICE!  Sharp picture!!!
I may be wrong but I think that modern plane is a Y-22 (History channel).  While this particular one may be able to go mach 2, it doesn't man that it can't also fly @ 400MPH.  It also looks like the older planes are P-51 Mustangs (former RC Modeler)  that are capable of nearly 600MPH in level flight.  While that is about 100MPH slower than the speed of sound, it should be more than enough to allow them to fly alongside the Y-22.

[wmccall]

The F-22 is completely computer contolled but takes input from the pilot and the computer can do some pretty spectacular things like keep the plane under control in situations that would otherwise be unstable.

[pg_rider]

Jets can fly in a "dirty" configuration (gear down, flaps down, etc) at very low speeds, say 150 knots.  The F-22 pictured isn't dirty, but factor in its thrust vectoring capability and its a snap to fly along with those prop jobbies (which are pretty fast in their own right)!

[Richs100]

Jets can fly in a "dirty" configuration (gear down, flaps down, etc) at very low speeds, say 150 knots.  The F-22 pictured isn't dirty, but factor in its thrust vectoring capability and its a snap to fly along with those prop jobbies (which are pretty fast in their own right)!

It goes to show ya.  Learn something new everyday.  The reason I thought this was a program I saw on the History Channel a while back.  They were talking about how the Nazis had gotten some jets up in the air towards the end of the war, but found that their biggest problem was out-running the Allies' prop planes.  So they couldn't do much with them.

Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me!
Rich

[wmccall]

Jets can fly in a "dirty" configuration (gear down, flaps down, etc) at very low speeds, say 150 knots.  The F-22 pictured isn't dirty, but factor in its thrust vectoring capability and its a snap to fly along with those prop jobbies (which are pretty fast in their own right)!

Exactly right.  I half suspect that he could have flipped around and stayed with them backwards  

[wmccall]

 They were talking about how the Nazis had gotten some jets up in the air towards the end of the war, but found that their biggest problem was out-running the Allies' prop planes.  So they couldn't do much with them.

Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me!
Rich

Little known fact- Chuck Yeagar, famous for breaking the sound barrier was the first pilot to shoot down a jet.  He caught one of the German jets with flaps and gear down landing. The jet didn't have the fuel to go around or get away.