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hottubdan, I noticed that on the HS website they have the Vanguard listed as a HP model. In fact, they have have attached the HP logo on all the non-classic models. When you go into the pdf they list the Vanguard as EE. I guess it's a typo on the website.I always thought the Grandee, Vista, Aria, and Envoy were classified as HP models. http://www.hotspring.com/Spa_Showroom_Hot_Tub/spa_model_vanguard.html
I believe the spas were:HS VanguardSundance OptimaJacuzzi J-365Master LSX
Well this it is very much so actually, now if you only had pin hole jets that move about 8 per minute though them than it would not be but if you are using jets that move 40 gallons of water per jet than its so comfortable and so soothing and gives you deep therapy. So yes when done right it is highly desirable."If you've got legit info. let's share it. Otherwise....what's the point?" Drew, Whats your point to turn this is some sort of a bashing of another product ? those who know their product, know what I am talking about and if its accurate. Are you suggesting that this is made up ? But please share with me the point of singling out someone, maybe I am wrong but I tried to answer a question that was asked without pointing a finger at any one maker so not to make this into a argument. My point was that when you can see the product side by side that there are real differences.
Drew, I think you miss the point completely of Mendo's post. He was just sharing his experience at a Marquis meeting. He only mentioned those things in the context of his amazement at how things are done differently...If his point was to stir up argument, he would have mentioned the specifics.And this post would be on FIRE now..and his point would be burried all together! He was just sharing how Marquis did their meeting...and how beneficial that it was to be able to wet test the competition and see some of the manufacturing differences. It was about a TYPE of sales/product information meeting...Why are you so agressive lately? You should be so happy...you have a wonderful, beautiful tub. And to top it off, you won it with great creativityand humor...not like the rest of us who had to digest all this info and spend big bucks.. Now behave yourself and bask in the glory..your lucky dog!
You are correct. If the marketing department is monitoring, it will be fixed. If not, I will bring it to their attention, fully crediting Gomboman! 8-)
Drew,Bonni pretty much nailed it. Go back to the beginning of the thread and my original post. No innuendos were dropped; I simply said there were differences if someone wants to read something into it than fine. I was pressed for something more direct so I pointed out 2 things as an example but never said who they were, not to be mysterious but to be respectful as my intent was never to stir debate in fact if you read the first post, my reason for even sharing the experience I had was that there was a interesting thread about spa ratings going on and since I just spent 3 days with five of those mentioned I just made reference to it. I personally thought your reference to restaurants and the you used it was a poor example and did not apply in the way you used it here ( JMO ); I did not go and make any claims. People can forever debate the merits of certain ways to do something and what they feel is the better way but sometimes facts are facts and you can debate if they have merit but that is different from casting doubt about the accuracy of the point of reference or statement.
Boni,On the contrary, this is a consumers forum. If he has some [glow]facts[/glow] to share, he should share them. Not just drop inuendo.Loosen,Your list of innovations sound like industry jargon. I am sure they are improvements, but what are they in plain language? What would they mean to a consumer trying to learn about spas?