Does Jacuzzi own Sundance?

[Pathfinder]

just to put my 2 cents in
Since Jacuzzi has move their operations back to Cali from Texas  most of the higher ups in tech & R&D from Sundance have been brought over to the Jacuzzi side of things to make a better product & bring up overall sales. Next year the sundance circ pump will be put into the Jacuzzi line. For the next few years most of the better ideas will be implemented on the Jacuzzi side of things & once they achieve the market share they have projected, all the new ideas will be split and divided according to previous year sales.  It is more than likely that SD will be streamlined a bit my a few tubs going by the way side.

This was told to me by 3 R&D guys over drinks  who are pulling double duty for Jacuzzi & Sundance in Cali

[Wisoki]

Nothing like he said she said to clear things up.

just to put my 2 cents in
Since Jacuzzi has move their operations back to Cali from Texas  most of the higher ups in tech & R&D from Sundance have been brought over to the Jacuzzi side of things to make a better product & bring up overall sales. Next year the sundance circ pump will be put into the Jacuzzi line. For the next few years most of the better ideas will be implemented on the Jacuzzi side of things & once they achieve the market share they have projected, all the new ideas will be split and divided according to previous year sales.  It is more than likely that SD will be streamlined a bit my a few tubs going by the way side.

This was told to me by 3 R&D guys over drinks  who are pulling double duty for Jacuzzi & Sundance in Cali

[tony]

I very seriously doubt the most recognizable name in the industry will ever sucumb the sundance.

That's my point.  As all the original owners of Sundance cash out, they'll all become Jacuzzis, the most recognizable name in the industry.

[Pathfinder]

Posted by: Wisoki       Posted on: Today at 4:25pm
Nothing like he said she said to clear things up.

I will let you call me a liar when the 07 Jacuzzi's dont have the same circ pump as a sundance and becausec I fabricated the whole thing  

[Spatech_tuo]

I think Corporate has to dance quite a bit to make each feel like they're top dog.

[Tatooed_Lady]

I think Corporate has to dance quite a bit to make each feel like they're top dog.

Normally they just lift their leg on the underlings and that settles it.....  

[Wisoki]

Sorry if you feel I called you a liar, I didn't, but if you feel that way.... As for the circ pump thing, everything in the Jacuzzi 400 series uses the 35 GPM circulation pump, and every thing in the Sundance 880 series used that same pump. Both brands for the better part of the last decade have been using the laing circ pump on all their spas, it is neither Jacuzzi nor Sundance, it is the same circ pump virtualy EVERY spa manufacturer uses except the ones that use grundfos. Neither Jacuzzi nor Sundance is "developing" a circulation pump.

Posted by: Wisoki       Posted on: Today at 4:25pm
Nothing like he said she said to clear things up.

I will let you call me a liar when the 07 Jacuzzi's dont have the same circ pump as a sundance and becausec I fabricated the whole thing  

[cappykat]

This has nothing to do with who owns whom...but I do find it interesting that the Jacuzzi brand seems to be getting a lot of positive play on this board lately.

When I was looking for input on the J385 there was hardly anything positive being said about Jacuzzi.  I will say I was influenced by the lack of positivity.  Then Duffman comes along and does his in-depth study and ends up buying a J385.  Maybe that's it...because of Duffman...Jacuzzi is getting more attention.

[Spatech_tuo]

Then Duffman comes along and does his in-depth study and ends up buying a J385.  Maybe that's it...because of Duffman...Jacuzzi is getting more attention.

The things we should take away from Duffman's experience are A) he should be commended for the time he put in and B) he liked the Jacuzzi best. The real influence his story should have had is that each individual needs to do his/her own research to find out for him/herself what is best as we all know 5 people can test out 5 premium spas and ALL come to vastly differing conclusions.

[cappykat]

Spatech...I absolutely agree.  I did a ton of research and wet tested many hot-tubs.  There were 2-3 I liked equally.  I think when that happens is where this forum comes in and has an influence.  It could be negative it could be positive.  It's how one interprets the information.

[Spatech_tuo]

Spatech...I absolutely agree.  I did a ton of research and wet tested many hot-tubs.  There were 2-3 I liked equally.  I think when that happens is where this forum comes in and has an influence.  It could be negative it could be positive.  It's how one interprets the information.

Exactly and if you wet test that same Jacuzzi and it doesn't feel/fit right for whatever reason you wouldn't say "geez, but Duffman liked it, I'm surprised".  If Duffman had an identical twin we shouldn't expect that person to have arrived at the same conclusion, even if he/she were conjoined.

[dpgtech]

Just to clear something up that tony said in an earlier post.  the J400 series and the sundance 880 series do not share the same filtration.  they do share the same circ pump and they both have a 10 micron, microban impregnated filter but the J400 hundred still uses a vertical filter set up and also a true bottom suction filter that sucks from the floor and empty' into a 10 micron replaceable filter bag.

[tony]

Just to clear something up that tony said in an earlier post.  the J400 series and the sundance 880 series do not share the same filtration.  they do share the same circ pump and they both have a 10 micron, microban impregnated filter but the J400 hundred still uses a vertical filter set up and also a true bottom suction filter that sucks from the floor and empty' into a 10 micron replaceable filter bag.

Sorry I mislead.  You are correct, SD and JP use different filtering techniques...both seem to have retained their original styles.  I was referring more to the fact that JP has moved to the mini micron filtering that SD introduced in their spas last year (I believe it is 5 micron, not 10).

[dpgtech]

according to jacuzzi brass at the aqua show I was told 10 micron. could be wrong, but that's what I was told.

[galen]

I talked with Duffman, about his report. I ask him about SD.  He stated, that it was too far for him to drive to consider. I was disappointed that he didn't test any SD tub. I didn't go as deep into my testing as Duffman but I did test both JP and SD. Clearly the SD had a top notch cir. pump as filtration, lights, waterfalls and size. I wanted a big tub.  In this area, SD has a beautiful showroom.  And JP has a small three tub showroom, mixed with other lower classed tubs. Bottom line is you should always buy whats good for you. When I went in to the JP store to buy chemicals and was ask if I had bought yet. I told them and they were very polite and said good choice.