The Great Pool and Spa Show

[Guzz]

huh?  picture posting is bad?

Grandstanding?  

Honestly, if you feel there is a problem, contribute and speak up then and there. Its a public forum.  Don't sit back and say nothing and the later whine about vague things.

 

My sentiments exactly.

[Vinny]

Actually what Soakin, salesdvl and  Anglia67 are saying IS TRUE!

This board has degraded to hawking vs helping.

As far as what drewstar and Guzz are saying - it's a free forum and we all come here for whatever reason.
Who really has the time or energy to argue with someone who is completely convinced that their piece of crap their selling is better than my piece of crap! I certainly don't - so I decided not to participate - I'm back, but not in the same way. I read things and shake my head and laugh at the sales dribble that comes out.

I came here for help if and when my tub has problems. AND hopefully help someone who is or may become in a similar situation.

It certainly is not the same forum as it was a year ago!

Vinny

PS:  On the way home from work, I realized that one of the issues that Soakin had was with Mendo - I personally don't have any issues with Mendo!

[East_TX_Spa]

I agree that everyone on here is biased to some extent, a few more so than others.  It is obvious in the way they interact and will eventually come out if given the opportunity.

I have my biases as well.  When I read some of the disinformation that's tossed about, I confront it and challenge it.  I expect anyone to challenge me if I am less than accurate about anything I state.  I have wrongly mispoken once or twice on here, was called on it, realized and admitted my mistake, and apologized.  If someone has a problem with me, I'm sorry for you.  I don't mean to hurt your feelings.  But Jiminy Cricket, don't cry about it.  Stand up for yourself and disprove anything I've said on this board, if you can.

Terminator

[salesdvl]

So, I was talkin to the wall the other day.....

[Anglia67]

I am not saying that picture posting is bad, I enjoy looking at all the creative ways that people have added spas to there homes and backyards. I am not interested in all the big busted ladies, tools used in sales events and for dealer parties. I do not have to look at them, and dont.
And by the way Drew, I am not whining, as you so put it, I gave my opinion.It is posts like yours that probaly turn other people away.
Only if walls could talk.......

[drewdad]

hows that old saying go about not pleasing some people all the time ....? I have surfed and posted for a while, and have learned alot, laughed alot, and just skipped over some stuff.
I am, but a lowly consumer, who bought a caldera almost a year ago, due in part to things I learned here. I am not a dealer, or any sort of "industry insider".

I will agree that the temperment of this forum has changed oveer the last several months, and that is not inherently a bad thing. when I say I made my decision IN PART from what I learned here, I mean exactly that. for the most part we are strangers, all over the country, posting semi anonymous posts and answers. no offense intended to anyone here, but before dropping a large chunk of $ on anything, I will check into any claims, made by anyone.......
I really can't imagine a newbie posting what the best tub out there, and running out to buy "that one". if we have enough $ to buy a tub, hopefully we have acquired a brain cell or 2 along the way

that being said, I for one like most of the pics of the day( thanks term), and the occasional joke/ humor. if you dont care for them, dont read it....drewski's story of locking himself out of the house at night in only his birthday suit is priceless , and 1 of my fav stories....
there are several hundred pages of posts and a search engine to research a single topic if needed, so search away.....
I personally own a hot tub (this my third), and view it as a way of life, relaxed, casual and fun (sometimes a bit irreverent fun, but still funny).
stupid arrogant people will typically always be just that....... and even some of the good guys that pass thru here may have an occasional attack of stupid, but it can be cured.

this is an open forum after all...... live and let live,( post and let post?)and take most of what you read with a grain of salt.....
as the romans used to say..... veni. veci, lavi?? to much soap in the guest suit.....

[Steve]

Awesome post drewdad!! Very well written!

Steve

[stuart]

Wow!

I was just breezing through and opened this topic only to find that it changes more than Sybil playing hide and seek...

What were you talking about again

I don't even recognize many of the names posting now days.
     

[obi wan]

allow me to take credit where due....drewdad is my alter ego....
there has been a change on the forum. now you have to be registered to read the posts. I checked the box keep me logged on many, many months ago, and then promptly forgot the log on ID and password I used some how i got logged off, so I had to create a new identity so i could look at my own profile to get my user name, to have the top notch administrators email me my own passwword!
what an adventure!
but at least all is well with the force.... obi wan is back
dont forget, to "live long and prosper", one should soak long and often.....

[drewstar]

I am not saying that picture posting is bad, I enjoy looking at all the creative ways that people have added spas to there homes and backyards. I am not interested in all the big busted ladies, tools used in sales events and for dealer parties. I do not have to look at them, and dont.
And by the way Drew, I am not whining, as you so put it, I gave my opinion.It is posts like yours that probaly turn other people away.
Only if walls could talk.......

It certainly did indeed sound like you felt the picture posting was bad, since you commented that you prefered it to stop.  

YOu never explained what you ment by "Grandstanding"

As far as pics go, I enjoy looking at the bathers, the partys, and females in  bathing suits. Nothing here has been posted that isn't not of the same level of What is in some spa brouchures or what's on TV in prime tiem.  Any how,  If you asked me, I'd prefer not to see pics of your kids, but to each it's own.  But I don't complain, I just skip over it, because it's an open forum and there is at times a high S/N ratio, you need to take everything with a grain of salt.

I don't understand  your comment that "if walls could talk"
What does that mean? If you have something to say, then please speak up, because wall's don't talk.

By the way,  What type of tub do you own? Where do you live? What do you like about Hot tubs? What brings you to this  forum. You've been a member since  Augusts, and have made only a few commments?

In your other post, you mentioned that you didn't feel the appropriaite info wasn't being posted. If you feel there are topics that should be discussed, open a topic. If there are questions that you  need answers to, then ask.  

If someone posts a pic you don't like, or has a BS discusiion you don't like, you have the right attitute: skip over it.  That's why I don't understand your negative opinion.


Anyhow, I have to laugh, as I think most of the posts are by users like me, (Ive onewed a couple of tubs and contiune to make mistakes, I've learned a lot from my screw ups...) I'm just trying to share what that have learned, ask questions, post some answers based on what I do, hoping others will contribute and point out things that could be improved upon and share thier experinces. You know....contribute.

This isn't a paid for forum, and any replies on from people doing so out of an effort to help. If you feel they're selling a product and lying, then as Term said,  Call him on it.

Anyhow,  if you have a problem with me or another posting I do think you should take it up with them directly and not whine about it in a post.  

Offer suggestions to improve.  Particpate.  Ask questions. Share yoru experinces.

don't do a "no thanks, I'll just  B and moan if I don't like it"


I call em as I see em.

[salesdvl]

So, once again it has turned in a direction not originally intended.  The point, for me, has always been the attitude that is projected when someone posts something against HS (or whomever- but mostly HS).  Show pride in your product but leave the arrogance at your homepage.

The following is the post that bothered me.  How can you say that you are giving good, legitmate, objective advice when you post that someone is an idiot for saying they feel a certain brand is better than HS.

bhawes
 Re: LA Spa Heet
Dec 13th, 2005, 10:47am »  

I  think LA Spas is  great Hot tub even better than Hot Springs and Sundance. It's seems after wet testing that Hot Springs is really overrated not enough jets and very low power. The price for the Hot Springs is only playing for the name while, LA Spas can compete any day with Hot Springs and Sundance.  
« Last Edit: Dec 13th, 2005, 11:28am by bhawes »

East_TX_Spa
Dec 14th, 2005, 7:12pm »  
No, just pointing out how pointless it is to make a claim like bhawes did.  It serves no useful purpose.  Spaman was doing the same.

Terminator

[LtDan]

I bet Dad is gonna get mad soon...

[windsurfdog]

Straight from the gates of internet Hell it comes...........

"Night of the Walking Thread"......the thread that WILL NOT DIE!!!!

[marks]

I tried to hold my tongue and mind my own business but here goes.

I am a Hot Tub consumer and have nothing to do with the hot tub retail end.  I have been using this site for about 5 months and think it is a great resource.  Did it help me decide on what tub to buy? No.  This site did help me understand how take care of my water chemistry.  I would not have switched to N2 and Dichlor without this sites help.  Also I found out about Doc site (rhtubs.com) to buy chemicals from.  What do Terms picture of the day hurt? Nothing and they are fun.  I also enjoy pictures of other people’s installations.  Anyway, salesdvl I think you are off base on this one.

Vinny,

I thought we have had some good exchanges in the past and have appreciated your help.  I hope you continue to post in the future.

[obi wan]

DONT MAKE ME TURN THIS POST AROUND !!
you kids stop bickering....
seriously though.... let me see if I have this right. if term says HS is the best, he's being an arrogant schmuck. when bhawes says la sps are best, thats fine. when term says its a pointless post( he didn't call anybody an idiot, BTW) term is still the schmuck??
what anyone believes to be a good or even greatest spa, is fine for them. more power to them, buy it and enjoy......

there are quite a few great spas. there is no #1 best brand, just like there is no #1 brand of car, or microwave, computer, etc....
it WAS a pointless post, as there was no quantifying info... no model, price, size, long term reliability record etc......
for what it's woreth, I have been on this board for about a year now, and I see much more of the HS critsism from others, than the other way around....