Asking price and negotiating the purchase.

[Doug]

How can anyone say Steve and Beachcomber are being up front about pricing?  I'm still waiting to see a price for the spa I have picked out above.

Since I have seen Steve at Beachcomber post other responses on this forum, I can only assume at this point he is all talk.  Hopefully he will prove me wrong ))

[Brian]

I also thought it was a little fishy how Steve is praising Beachcomber's no hassle sales and yet they do not post msrp on their website.

Still seeking the truth myself.  Any manufacturer's want to step up to the plate?  Or are you all worried about losing your dealer base?

[Steve]

Are you two a comedy team?

Tell 'em he's all talk and I'll bet that'll make 'em post!

If you're looking for real answers and are serious about spas....let me know.

Where have you seen Beachcomber Doug? Where do you live?

[Spa_Tech]

I think this is becoming somewhat of a fishing expedition.


First off, very few manufacturers will publish prices on their website. The ones that do, are typically internet retailers. The absence of specific pricing by the manufacturers site isnt 'cagey' or deliberately elusive behavior.

The absence of prices on manufacturers sites allows the local dealer to set quoted prices consistant with the local marketplace-- This includes letting them choose whether or not they will negotiate price with consumers or set a non-negotiable, but market friendly prices.

It really doesnt matter how the dealer goes about it--- they can either do as many car dealers do and play the negotiation game, or be like Circuit City and the price is the price. Either way, the dealer gets paid and the customer has a spa in their backyard. Is making a profit in this business so unpalatable? And who is the judge of how much profit is acceptable?

Certainly a buyer has control over this indirectly- I mean, if the buyer thinks something is too expensive- they can either select a less costly model, or move on to a possibly inferior product with another dealer. Once the dealer discovers they arent selling product due to high prices they have to change with the market or face extinction due to loss of sales.

[Steve]

I agree tech.

I've seen many shop for spas over the years and even though the internet offers a level of camouflage for some, I have a very difficult time with some who choose this approach at gathering information. It’s always easy to “weed out” the people just playing games.

Comments like:

"Boy you have a lot of options that I've seen standard elsewhere" - "Doug"

"I also thought it was a little fishy how Steve is praising Beachcomber's no hassle sales and yet they do not post msrp on their website." - "Brian"

Kind of a no brainer there Brian

[James Arjuna]

Steve;  Are you so deeply buried in sales stuff that the real Steve is lost?

We publish our prices and deliver spas everywhere.  I have seen Beachcomber high end models from $8k to $5 K for the same spa.  I believe it is relative to the skils of the sales guy, more than the wholesale price of the products.

[Steve]

WOW...there's a blast from the past!

How did this end up back on top from almost 3 years ago? Have I been here that long? :-/

The Con man was the last to post to this in Oct of '02 yet it's back on top...how'd that happen?

Steve

[East_TX_Spa]

Technical error on my part.

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[Steve]

So did you post to it recently then delete it?

[Rayman]

Steve most of these posts make it seem that you are a Beachcomber guy but your title says Hydropool, what are you man?

Ray

[East_TX_Spa]

So did you post to it recently then delete it?

Yes sir.

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[Steve]

Steve most of these posts make it seem that you are a Beachcomber guy but your title says Hydropool, what are you man?

Ray

I'm a Beachcomber guy that promotes Hydropool!

Actually, I worked for Beachcomber for about 9 years. My new gig with Hydropool as their western Canadian dealer development partner is only as of about 8 months ago. I love the product, the people and finally getting out of the retail game!

I'm set up as a business consultant with my own company and contracted to Hydropool exclusively.

Steve

[East_TX_Spa]

Just so ya'll know what I did, I found an old post from 2002 from one of our esteemed members and tried to post the quote in a new thread.  I accidentally resurrected the old thread, and lo and behold, the last post happened to be from the Flim Flam Man.  I knew of no way to retract the thread.  I'm sorry if I inconvenienced or upset anyone.

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[Chris_H]

Flim Flam Man...

From now on, I am going to use that when I am talking about him.

Not really sure what it means though.

[East_TX_Spa]

Down in these here parts, if someone is a con artist, we call them a Flim Flam Man.  "That boy's runnin' a flim flam."

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