Arctic Tubs

[poolboy34]

D-1's used to up until a year or 2 ago when they changed cover manufacturers.  they used to use Ideal, but now they use a different company.  The caldera's do not to my knowledge, but I'll check the ones on our Demo spas in the showroom tomorrow.

[JPKeirstead]

I am not ignoring it, or you Stuart, I simply don't have much time to follow-up the submissions on this site.  

If you are asking do I condone unprofessional behaviour from anyone within my organization, the answer is clearly no.  I hope you can appreciate that I have no idea who those other's are who claim to be sales reps for our company.  If I did, they would be reprimanded for such behaviour. I am sure you realize that anyone could claim to be with my company and without knowing their full name, there really is no way for me to know who they are.  I suspect that many people on this forum use alias' so they won't be held entirely accountable for their unprofessional comments.

As you can see...I do not.

James

[JPKeirstead]

Mr. Kierstead,
I've noticed that you are still posting but haven't replied to my questions on page one of this topic? Could you take a moment and do that? It would make me feel a bit better about the un-professional way your factory rep attacked me personally on Private Messages. I wouldn't think this is how you want your company portrayed by me or anyone else.....

Again Stuart, I apologize.  I was not ignoring you.  I simply don't have much time to view the message board.  Not only that, I am still learning how this whole forum thing works and I think I miss a lot of messages :-)

You can see my other reply on this subject, but suffice it to say that I do not condone the unprofessional comments you have pointed out (I missed the edited ones).  If I knew who made them, I would reprimand them, however, I don't.  Nor do I have the time to track them down.  I hope that by posting this, they will see my position on the matter and act accordingly in the future.

Kind regards,
James

[JPKeirstead]

Isn't the type of foam in the cover different than what's used in the cabinet?

Yes, the type of foam is different.  Most covers use a Polystyrene foam insulation (approximately R4/inch), while most spas themselves are insulated with Polyurethane foam (I think about R7 per inch).  Again this would suggest that a slightly thicker cover would definitely contribute to better heat retention.

[stuart]

Again Stuart, I apologize.  I was not ignoring you.  I simply don't have much time to view the message board.  Not only that, I am still learning how this whole forum thing works and I think I miss a lot of messages :-)

You can see my other reply on this subject, but suffice it to say that I do not condone the unprofessional comments you have pointed out (I missed the edited ones).  If I knew who made them, I would reprimand them, however, I don't.  Nor do I have the time to track them down.  I hope that by posting this, they will see my position on the matter and act accordingly in the future.

Kind regards,
James

Thanks for answering! As far as "Tracking them down" I may have already done some of that, I will let you know when I'm sure.....

[JPKeirstead]

I await your information.  

Hope you enjoy the Holidays!

James

[spahappy]

Thanks for answering! As far as "Tracking them down" I may have already done some of that, I will let you know when I'm sure.....

Sometimes you scare me Stuart! LOL

Spahappy

[HotTubMan]

Sometimes you scare me Stuart! LOL

Spahappy

Ex-military types like Stu and my Dad scare me too..

[stuart]

I await your information.  

Hope you enjoy the Holidays!

James

OK thanks James, I will PM you when I get the info as opposed to carrying this on publicly.

[spahappy]

Ex-military types like Stu and my Dad scare me too..

He probably knows who's been naughty or nice too!


Spahappy

[stuart]

He probably knows who's been naughty or nice too!


Spahappy

So when I find out who was naughty can I count on you and other members of the "vertically challenged estrogen mafia" to enforce for me? (hey I just thought of something, that would be kinda like elves wouldn't it?)

[spahappy]

So when I find out who was naughty can I count on you and other members of the "vertically challenged estrogen mafia" to enforce for me? (hey I just thought of something, that would be kinda like elves wouldn't it?)

Yeah nothing says Christmas quite like a band of vertically challenged estrogen mafia elves.

I kind of like the term estrogen mafia, I think I can put that to good use. LOL

Spahappy

[ZzTop]

8 ) Arctic tubs are built like a polar bear.  This is true.  Go gut a polar bear, crawl inside, and you very may well recreate the Arctic experience.

-Ed

I must remind myself to try this next time I am in Churchill Manitoba,  Canada's Polar Bear capital.

Ebirrane, This is the best post on Artic Spas I have ever read.

Well done, to the point and true.

Regards, ZzTop

[stuart]

Ebirrane, This is the best post on Artic Spas I have ever read.

Well done, to the point and true.

Regards, ZzTop

I agree Zz Ed did a great job on this one! I have re-read it several times, printed it out and shared it with my employees and even faxed it to a competitor that is also a friend!

[moparracing]

THIS WEBSITE IS BRUTAL ON PEOPLE'S OPINIONS ABOUT THEIR SPA'S!!!! AND HOW MANY POSTED ARE OWNERS, NOT JUST DEALERS

ANYWAY, HERE'S MY OPINION:

I'VE OWNED 3 SPA'S NOW, MY LAST A CATALINA. I DECIDED ON A ARCTIC SPA (KODIAK LEGEND SEIRES) BECAUSE I LIKED WHAT I SAW. NOW THAT I'VE OWNED IT A FEW YEARS, HERE'S MY TAKE:

PROS:
SOLID CONSTRUCTION, FIBERGLASS BOTTOM, VERY WELL DONE WOOD SIDING.
THE SHELL, JETS & FLOW CONTROLS PRETTY MUCH INDUSTRY STANDARD.
THE ELECTRONIC CONTROLS, GECO VS BALBOA HAVEN'T BEEN AN ISSUE.
THE COVER, THOUGH MAYBE OVERKILL IS GREAT..... DOESN'T WARP OR BEND LIKE OTHERS.
THE SINGLE FILTER LASTS A YEAR, WITH SEMI-ANNUAL CLEANING.
THE FIVE YEAR WARRANTY COVERS EVERYTHING, NOT PRORATED LIKE OTHERS.
GREAT DEALER & FACTORY SUPPORT..... HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH A COUPLE OF JETS -- GOT HELP QUICKLY AND CALLS FROM THE FACTORY ON THE SATISFACTION OF THE HELP.
THE INSULATION AGAINST THE SHELL VS THE CASING IS A PREFERENCE THING...... IT DOES MAKE IT EASIER TO SERVICE THE TUB, BUT AS FAR AS HEATING COST SAVINGS -- BOTH DESIGNS ARE THE SAME !!! LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I'VE OWNED BOTH TYPES OF INSULATED TUBS. AND THE PUMPS GETTING TOO MUCH HEAT HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE FOR ME.

CONS:

THE BIGGEST ONE IS THAT SALES TACTIC THAT ARCTIC IS MORE HEATING EFFECIENT...... THAT'S BULL, IT COSTS THE SAME AS THE OTHER 2 SPAS I'VE OWNED -- BOTH INSULATION DESIGNS ARE THE SAME IN THIS CONCERN.
THE PRICE COULD BE BETTER !! FRANKLY, I THINK YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR....... PAY ALITTLE MORE NOW OR PAY IT LATER. I'M LIKE EVERY OTHER CONSUMER OUT THERE WHO WANTS THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE.