Education on Arctic Spas

[Steve]

Hey all! Just arrived back from Vegas this morning at 7:00am. Got a restful 3 hours of sleep and I'm ready to go!  :-/

A quick thanks to Mendocino for a great tour of downtown (old) Vegas and some great company over a wonderful steak dinner. We stayed at Caesars Palace right on the strip and if not for Mendo, I would have never seen the amazing sights of this classic area. The poor guy just wanted to get home and I dragged him out for sightseeing. He did teach me how to play at roulette and we both walked away a little richer.

Mendocino is just a little guy about 5'5" 160lbs  . OK...he's a big dude and even I felt small standing beside him being 6' 230lbs! He's a genuine guy with a heart of gold and I'm glad we got some time to spend together. He's the type of guy that you would want as your best friend and it takes less than 30 seconds to get that impression when you meet him.

Unfortunately, I didn't get to spend a great deal of time with Stuart and his gorgeous wife. We chatted in our booth briefly and he is the spitting image of Garth Brooks when he wears his cowboy hat! That's a compliment Stu!

As for this post, I have a few questions but will wait my turn after Stuart. I promise not to jump in from the top ropes! Stick your hand out Stuart when you're done buddy..

Steve

[stabone]

Can any of you heat your tubs up to 104 and then unplug your heaters for however long the tub stays on the floor, and yes I do open the cover most of the day which results in temperature falling through out the day to around 98 degrees if the cover is off all day, then it is back to 104 by the next morning, so how can you argue that the pumps don't heat, or aid in heating water. The facts are facts.

[Mendocino101]

Steve....

Hey Thanks for the nice words...It was a great time...I hope the show was a big success for you and that  the little money we made playing roulette stayed in your pocket and did not find its was back to the casinos...It was a real pleasure meeting you....Hope to see you again maybe February

[spahappy]

Can any of you heat your tubs up to 104 and then unplug your heaters for however long the tub stays on the floor, and yes I do open the cover most of the day which results in temperature falling through out the to around 98 degrees if the cover is off all day, then it is back to 104 by the next morning, so how can you argue that the pumps don't heat, or aid in heating water. The facts are facts.

Thats no big feat on the showroom floor.The test is when it's 10 to 20 below and the wind is blowing 30 mph and the tub sits on a hill with nothing anound it...


Spahappy

[stabone]

You still didn't answer the question, and at those temperatures it will still decrease heater use

[Steve]

Can any of you heat your tubs up to 104 and then unplug your heaters for however long the tub stays on the floor, and yes I do open the cover most of the day which results in temperature falling through out the day to around 98 degrees if the cover is off all day, then it is back to 104 by the next morning, so how can you argue that the pumps don't heat, or aid in heating water. The facts are facts.

YES! I can heat my tub up to 104 outside here in Edmonton at -35C, unplug it out of the wall and the water will start to boil within the hour with the cover off (after me and my 12 friends have stood on it that is).

I thought all tubs did that?

Steve
(That was the middle rope...)

[Mendocino101]

Can any of you heat your tubs up to 104 and then unplug your heaters for however long the tub stays on the floor, and yes I do open the cover most of the day which results in temperature falling through out the day to around 98 degrees if the cover is off all day, then it is back to 104 by the next morning, so how can you argue that the pumps don't heat, or aid in heating water. The facts are facts.

I do not think that would be disputed by anyone who also sells a thermo type design....from what I recently saw in Vegas Hydro-pool may have something very similar I am sure Steve can comment on it....Here is something that happened on our showroom floor.....spa was unplugged for 4 days not just the heater, the cover was on and the temp went from 102 to 95....now how does that loss compare to yours.....

[stabone]

Also, in those condititions you are refering, if your tub lost power how long would it take for your equipment to freeze up, being on the outside of your insulation

[spahappy]

I thought we were comparing Arctic to Coleman not full foam

Spahappy

[Steve]

Who is that question directed at and what product are you referring to?

Anyone elsle getting the feeling we aren't going to get real answers and just more salesmanship from the Arctic group?

[stabone]

If you want to talk about something that is no big feat you just said it, I think a Home Depot spa could sit in a show room with the cover on and hold temps like that

[Mendocino101]

I thought we were comparing Arctic to Coleman not full foam

Spahappy

I do not think the original post even mentions Coleman

[Mendocino101]

If you want to talk about something that is no big feat you just said it, I think a Home Depot spa could sit in a show room with the cover on and hold temps like that

really spoken like a true Artic salesman ....never commenting on whats set before just slamming the others this is why you get hit so hard by most everyone else....perhaps you were JA in another life....

if you really want to see how it compares unplug your spa for 4 full days and let it sit....and if nothing else see for yourself what temp  loss you have and if it exceeds 7degrees...

[spahappy]

I do not think the original post even mentions Coleman

No the original post does not mention Coleman, but wetone asked how an Arctic compared to a Coleman, since they are both thermopane.

[stabone]

Do coleman spas now have a fiberglass shell with no insulation on it, I don't see to many these days, but last I saw they were insulating cabinet and shell