I used to own a Vanguard, now a Grandee (bigger Vanguard.) Still love it, and use it every day. That's what the Vanguard goes for. If you strip it back, you can get it may a little lower. Normally when people are in that luxury level style, they might upgrade it a bit, so ours normally goes from $13.5-$15000, depending on options. The Hot Spring Salt promo starts at the end of this week for 10 days, if you wait and buy it then, you can get a salt system and a 3 pack of salt cartridges, which is good value if you are going to do it anyway!