I've been slimed (with full foam insulation)

[wondertubs]

Some fairly recent vids about that illustrate what a mess it can make:

• Trying to find a leak in a full foam hot tub
• What happens inside a full foam hot tub when it leaks
• Mouse nesting inside full foam hot tub
• Almost frozen hot tub survives 6 days without power in winter

[Tman122]

Some fairly recent vids about that illustrate what a mess it can make:

• Trying to find a leak in a full foam hot tub
• What happens inside a full foam hot tub when it leaks
• Mouse nesting inside full foam hot tub
• Almost frozen hot tub survives 6 days without power in winter

LOL...."mice are a problem in any full foam hot tub"....LOL Guess what? They are a bigger problem in non foamed hot tubs.

There's a lot of ways to keep a foamed tub from freezing for weeks. But this is the same with either style of insulation.

[JacuzziJack]

A 25 year hot tub tech explained to me when the pumps turn on/off the hammering causes the hoses to 'jiggle' then jerk again when the pumps go off. Over time and thousands of cycles it leads to broken or cracked plastic fittings particularly when the plastic becomes older and more brittle. When mfgrs started encasing everything in foam it holds everything firm and hoses don't surge and leaks are rare with the exception of freezing. He said "rare" ...not 'extinct'.

[wondertubs]

I didn't picture the full foam becoming a giant sponge, when reading comments about it being tricky to repair, that sure is something else. I guess it's bound to happen sooner or later, or there would be a lifetime warranty on the insulation.

[Spatech_tuo]

Did someone let Jim A out of the loony bin?

[Tman122]

I didn't picture the full foam becoming a giant sponge, when reading comments about it being tricky to repair, that sure is something else. I guess it's bound to happen sooner or later, or there would be a lifetime warranty on the insulation.

Wet foam is how we locate a leak. But it's only wet from the leak down hill below the leak to a way out. I've repaired many leaks in foam and have a hot wire knife to cut it tons neater than that guy. Over my 30 year career I would say I dug foam 10 times. Only one was a normal leak. The rest were freeze damage. And no, it's not bound to happen. Most never leak and live a long happy life until they are retired.

[Professor Spa]

30 years fixing hot tubs and fullfoam is not the nightmare its made out to be and they leak a lot less than spas with unsupported plumbing and especially if they clamp the plumbing lines.

Fact: Full foam coast 3-4x more to make that the other methods... The real reason everyone does not full foam is the cost...

[wondertubs]

This one's my favorite. 

Leak repair: "How we repair a leak, and keep the cost down... we drilled us a couple little holes in the side like this"... uh, those aren't little, and that's more than a couple.

[Spatech_tuo]

This one's my favorite. 

Leak repair: "How we repair a leak, and keep the cost down... we drilled us a couple little holes in the side like this"... uh, those aren't little, and that's more than a couple.

You obviously don't need any assistance here so just buy a spa and then let us know what you endorse as the best choice out there based on your impeccable research.

[wondertubs]

You obviously don't need any assistance here so just buy a spa and then let us know what you endorse as the best choice out there based on your impeccable research.

Why quote me in this topic if you're going to talk about another one? Now you're so far off topic it's spilling over into this one. Get a grip.

Personally I wouldn't buy a spa, but I'm just a nice guy, and hopefully I can save someone else some trouble for being able to keep one working for them.  I'll probably skip the full foam.

[d00nut]

Personally I wouldn't buy a spa

Your loss!  Hot Tubs are awesome!

Personally I wouldn't buy a spa

Then why research them?  My time is pretty valuable between taking care of my kids, wife, and work.  Do something value added!

Personally I wouldn't buy a spa

Kind of to go along with the above... but why bother posting?  Seems like you dislike most everyone here anyway, be happy.  Or try to make others happy.  Not the opposite!

I'm just a nice guy

I'll probably skip the full foam.

Wait... I thought you said you didn't want a hot tub? 

[wondertubs]

Okay, you guys are obviously hi.

Bye.

[d00nut]

Okay, you guys are obviously hi.

Bye.

high*

Sorry I offended you Mr. Nice Guy.  You will be missed.   

[Spatech_tuo]

Okay, you guys are obviously hi.

Bye.

You were obviously misunderstood but Adios anyway (as if I really think you're never posting gain lol)!

[Hottubguy]

Okay, you guys are obviously hi.

Bye.

You were obviously misunderstood but Adios anyway (as if I really think you're never posting gain lol)!

Not misunderstood. Just a idiot.