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Well, after much research on this forum and many years waiting and waiting... I finally yesterday pulled the trigger on my new Designer Series Jacuzzi J-470. I hope I don't regret my final decision to bypass the lounge, but even my original thoughts of a slightly smaller sized (like the 88x88 sized J-465) will keep fit perfectly now at 91x91. Not too mention that now up to 7 people can easily fit when the times arise. And I'm quite sure those killer new RX jets will make it all worth wild in the end. According to my local Jacuzzi dealer, I am to expect delivery of my J-470 in it's Jade colored interior and matched Roasted Chestnut cabinet to arrive in around 3 weeks time from today. So, of course I will take some digital photos for others here on the forum as I am making final steps in the completion of my new Ledgestone III paver patio. Thanks again to the many who help with voicing their own experiences in this arena as it proves once again to help offer advice to others like myself.