Hawkeye Jupiter

[beth12345]

Hi! Anyone have any info on the haweye Jupiter? Seems to be a predominantly  East Coast model. Thanks

[Zep]

Nearly 20 years have passed since Hawkeye Spas first entered the consumer
market. Sure, we’ve made some changes along the way, but in retrospect,
the underlying ideals of the company remain unchanged.

We are tirelessly dedicated to customer satisfaction and the production of quality,
long-lasting hot tubs. Consequently, we now enjoy the distinction of being one
of the largest spa manufacturers on the East Coast.

At Hawkeye, we operate in a global market while holding steadfast to the
quality and thoroughness that brings distinction to the Hawkeye name.
What began as a family-owned operation has blossomed into a worldwide
corporation with a comprehensive spa line encompassing more than 10 models.

Today we stand at the forefront of an industry, continually pioneering new
technology and using our vision to influence the market around us.

In the News:

Hawkeye Spas has once again been given the five-star, Best of Class
rating by poolandspa.com. This highly coveted ranking rewards only
those companies with outstanding product development and the highest
quality control standards.





Jupiter Model
6 Adults
76" x 81" x 38"
31 Jets

Finally, a modestly priced spa that can fulfill the highest expectations. With two
Sta-Rite pumps propelling water through 31 stainless-steel jets, you’ll love the
intense hydrotherapy the Jupiter provides


Sony® Symphonic Resonance System

Several years ago, Hawkeye researchers joined with Sony technicians to
develop this speakerless audio system. Using the spa shell’s natural acoustics,
Sony® SRS delivers crisp, clear audio through a magnetic field. What’s more,
this system eliminates the risk of water damage to speaker components.



State-of-the-Art Jet System

Adjustable and interchangeable jets are yet another way for you to
personalize your spa. You can regulate water pressure at each jet by
simply turning the nozzle. In addition, a simple click provides effortless
jet swapping and even leaves the possibility for upgrading as new
technology becomes available.




http://www.hawkeyespas.com/index.html

[drewstar]

Hawkeye Spas has once again been given the five-star, Best of Class  
rating by poolandspa.com. This highly coveted ranking rewards only  
those companies with outstanding product development and the highest  
quality control standards.  


Poolandspas.com is complete B.S.  Any company that promotes that in thier marketing and tries to give itself credibility by  referenceing it, is suspsect. IMHO.

I know nothing about Hawkeye, but the above statement makes me question everything else they say.

I found this also on thier site:

Our Insu-Loc system uses two layers of foam to create a warm air pocket between the spa shell and cabinet.

This effective technology has been used for decades in double-paned windows and commercial freezers.


That sounds nice and impressive, but  that's not how double paned windows work.  They do not create a warm air barrier.  They are hermetically sealed with gases, and the glass is treated with films to increase it's insualating ability.  Additionaly, a window needs to be transparent. Therefore makers go through exspensive process to try and have them insulate as well as solid insualtion. I never understood why tub makers use this comparrison (We use the same technology as window makers! Why? There's no need, it often fails, and foam  is better.  Ask the window makers. They'll tell you.)

A Thermal tub uses the heat from it's pumps to create a warm air barrier equal in temerature  to that of the water's temperature to reduce any loss of heat from the side of the shell.  


All Comerical freezers  I've delt with were full foamed.    Has any one seen a Thermal Paned  comercial freezer?  


I hate it when tub makers don't know how thier products work and draw false analogies to try and bolster thier product.


 For those facing longer winter months, they may upgrade to our full-foam insulation package, the
most complete and effective insulation option available on the market.

I always get a kick out of the Thermal makers who claim it's so great. but offer a full foam upgrade for real insualtion.  

This company seems big on the BS.

[Zep]

re: "Poolandspas.com is complete B.S. Any company that promotes that in thier marketing and tries to give itself credibility by referenceing it, is suspsect. IMHO."

Hot Spring uses PoolsandSpas.com "Best Of Class" on
their web-site as we speak.

Click link below to see PoolsandSpas.com on Hot Spring web site:
http://www.hotspring.com/About_Hot_Spring_Spas/awards_consumer_digest_spa.html

[Richs100]

Hot Spring uses PoolsandSpas.com "Best Of Class" on
their web-site as we speak.

Zep:
I agree with you.  I think its a case of "The Emporer has no Underwear".  I don't know why they would associate themselves with that outfit.  I guess it sells tubs and no matter how many tubs you sell, its never enough!
Rich

[drewstar]

Zep:
I agree with you.  I think its a case of "The Emporer has no Underwear".  I don't know why they would associate themselves with that outfit.  I guess it sells tubs and no matter how many tubs you sell, its never enough!
Rich

I agree that it doens't reflect well on ANY company that uses these meaningless logos.

But I don't get the   "The Emporer has no Underwear" statement. What does that mean?

[Spatech_tuo]

Zep:
I agree with you.  I think its a case of "The Emporer has no Underwear".  I don't know why they would associate themselves with that outfit.  I guess it sells tubs and no matter how many tubs you sell, its never enough!
Rich

The emporer was missing far more than his underwear but that's another subject (it is a favorite of mine).

I think we'll find just about everyone has some of their Marketing dollars in the Consumer's Digest and/or "Best of Class" ratings.

Ho hum.

[wmccall]

Zep:
I agree with you.  I think its a case of "The Emporer has no Underwear".  I don't know why they would associate themselves with that outfit.  I guess it sells tubs and no matter how many tubs you sell, its never enough!
Rich

Thats the opinion amongst us, but what percentage of buyers are first time buyers and never set foot in our forum?  I'm sure it looks impressive to 90% of the market.

[drewstar]

"This highly coveted ranking rewards only  
those companies with outstanding product development and the highest  
quality control standards."

That's blatent lying. No?

[Zep]

re: "what percentage of buyers are first time buyers and
never set foot in our forum?"

wmccall....
I think Congress should enact a law that requires all new
potential spa owners to join this message board and post for one
month before purchase! Also all spa makers should be required
to put the following URL right next to the serial number:
www.WhatsTheBest-HotTub.com

 

[Tom]

I think we'll find just about everyone has some of their Marketing dollars in the Consumer's Digest ....

Not us.  But then, we didn't get a Best Buy rating, did we?

I finally received a copy of the April CD and the only advertising I saw was the inside covers (plus three full page ads for Con Dig related products and services).  They have additional sources of revenue.  One hint is that they have two Licensing offices.  Use of the CD logo and the Best Buy seal is permitted under license only.  They also note that "Your editorial coverage in Consumers Digest is transformed into a valuable marketing tool when you reinvest your exposure through reprints...."  Come again? Editorial coverage?  At any rate, they make money from such sales.

We had invested a considerable amount of time and resources into supplying CD with the materials and data they requested.  We were  not expecting a Best Buy rating, but we were expecting an extensive table comparing our spas with those of other manufacturers.  We expected to get an independent comparison with other similar products. In other words, we mistook it for Consumer Reports.   [smiley=embarassed.gif]

The magazine defines a Best Buy as a product that offers the most value for a given amount of money.  Value is defined (a bit redundantly) as perceived quality divided by cost.  

How do they measure "perceived quality"?  From any three of the following:
1. Personal (hands-on) product evaluations (I know that the author went to a big trade show to look 'em over)
2. Independent testing and research facilities (doubt they did any)
3. Reports from government agencies, universities etc (I'd like to see 'em.  Tong & Rogers?  [smiley=evil.gif])
4. Other independent technical experts (they obviously didn't use the ARC report)
5. Retail establishments ()
6. Service outlets ()
7. CD reader and other consumer surveys (again, I'd like to see 'em)
8. Previously published evaluations (aha, hearsay evidence!)

Ah, well, we tried.  We did learn from the process and will be able to better position ourself for a future edition (in another 3 to 7 years)

[drewstar]

I'm siding my house and the other night I had a rep from a national chain give me his speal.

I laughed when he said

"And we're a Consumer Digest's Best Buy! You know you can trust them. Have you read their magazines? "

"Excuse me, did you just say Consumer Digest,  or Consumer Reports?"

"Oh they're both great publications"

"No, one is paid advertising for the dealers, the other is a magazine that strives to rate features and quality to price..."

Oh....