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Tom.....you know how I feel about that study. I said it a year or two ago and I\I will say it now, scewed results to favor the company that payed for it.
QuoteTom.....you know how I feel about that study. I said it a year or two ago and I\I will say it now, scewed results to favor the company that payed for it. Skewed to favor the company that commissioned the study? Not really necessary; we wouldn't have paid if we hadn't been confident of the outcome. Still, "He who pays the piper calls the tune," which accounts for page 8. What I think is impressive is that Arctic has published those figures for all to see and debate. Or beat after it's dead, whatever.No, Artic would stil pay for the study. They just wouldn't publish the results. In paid, private studies, the results belong to the customer and they can choose to reveil the results or not. Many big companies do studies like this all the time, and when the results don't favor them, the reports never see the light of day. The researchers are bound by non-disclosure agreements as well. It's a nice spin to say they were confident in the outcome, and to imply they would publically publish the reports regardless of the results is misleading or naive.
Tom.....you know how I feel about that study. I said it a year or two ago and I\I will say it now, scewed results to favor the company that payed for it. Skewed to favor the company that commissioned the study? Not really necessary; we wouldn't have paid if we hadn't been confident of the outcome. Still, "He who pays the piper calls the tune," which accounts for page 8. What I think is impressive is that Arctic has published those figures for all to see and debate. Or beat after it's dead, whatever.
I believe Tom's point here drewstar is that Arctic is the only company which to our knowledge has paid for a study and released the results. Now, it could be possible that other mfgs may have conducted a similar study but decided NOT to release the study results (as you state they have a right to do) because the findings weren't favorable towards their brand. This argument works both ways.All consumers like me know is that in a industry in the millions of dollars, very few "independent" studies have been performed to try and determine whether there are in fact advantages or disadvantages with different methods of production. Many of us wonder why - especially when there are powerhouses like HS and Jacuzzi/Sundance out there who could really dominate the market with their vast distribution channels - the larger companies don't provide some data that shows their units to be engineered superior to their competitors.
I In a perfect world, each mfg donates one or two of their models to a lab for testing that is paid for equally by all mfgs participating. Then a battery of tests is performed on a variety of issues; ie energy use, insulation values, strength of jets, etc. For those of us more curious than the majority, such a study would be quite interesting and helpful.
Let me repeat Tman122, I'm not criticizing other spa owners or their intelligence. !