Author Topic: UFC 60 (Read 3530 times)

Brookenstein · « **on:** May 25, 2006, 10:16:29 pm »

Who is PPVing this? I think Matt Hughes is going to clobber him. I just hope its a decent fight and lasts more than a few seconds.

Hot Tub Forum · « **on:** May 25, 2006, 10:16:29 pm »

LtDan · « **Reply #1 on:** May 26, 2006, 08:57:49 am »

Bet ya a beer....Gracie will take it to the ground then skill will beat strength. Should be a great fight though, not sure who is carrying it.

Brookenstein · « **Reply #2 on:** May 26, 2006, 09:28:23 am »

You seriously think after all these years out of practice he has a chance to win? I loved Gracie back in his prime and haven't really followed him lately... but my money is on my boy Hughes.

Brookenstein · « **Reply #3 on:** May 26, 2006, 10:08:50 am »

Oh... and another thing. It really bothers me that this is not a title match. I think anytime someone with a belt fights another at a main event, it should always be a title match. Really makes me wonder if there could be a predetermined winner.

Also, the skills vs strength thing... Shamrock was one of the best in his time. Look at him now, even Tito Ortiz can beat him. I think if Gracie in his prime fought Hughes in his prime then it would be an awesome match, but until Terminator gets his teleporter of sorts working, that aint gonna happen.

hymbaw · « **Reply #4 on:** May 26, 2006, 12:08:20 pm »

Every time I see UFC on TV, I only have one thought......

No brain..........No pain!!!!

LtDan · « **Reply #5 on:** May 27, 2006, 09:48:26 am »

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You seriously think after all these years out of practice he has a chance to win? �I loved Gracie back in his prime and haven't really followed him lately... but my money is on my boy Hughes.

I don't think Gracie is out of practice, I prefer to think of it as honing his skills out of the limelight. I was always amazed at how he could win when his opponents always seemed bigger, stronger, meaner, etc....

I am rooting for the old guy cause I are one! I hope he has one more surprise in him.

Brookenstein · « **Reply #6 on:** May 27, 2006, 10:14:42 am »

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Every time I see UFC on TV, I only have one thought......

No brain..........No pain!!!!

A lot of these guys are very bright educated men.... Chuck Liddell has a degree in accounting and Rich Franklin was a school teacher.

hymbaw · « **Reply #7 on:** May 27, 2006, 12:10:48 pm »

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A lot of these guys are very bright educated men....
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After their career you can change that to WERE very bright educated men!

Anybody that would take the beatings that they do for peanuts(compared to boxers) ain't that bright in my book.

But still, fun to watch.

Brookenstein · « **Reply #8 on:** May 27, 2006, 12:55:30 pm »

It is amazing to me that some of these guys will fight for such little money. �I also can't believe that Matt Hughes makes so much more money per fight than Rich Franklin. �I just read that Hughes is making the same amount per fight as he has since 2002. Franklin signed a 7 fight deal before his big win against Shamrock and because he is the stand up guy he is, he is honoring the deal. Regardless, he is drastically underpaid.

UFC is making huge money these days and paying less and less to the fighters. I love Dana White and the UFC, but this is ridiculous. If the guys weren't under such long term contracts they could fight in Pride and make a heckofalot more money.

UFC Ultimate Fight Night 2 - October Event
Evan Tanner - $20,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $22,000)
David Loiseau - $10,000 ($5k to fight; $5k to win)
Chris Leben - $10,000 ($5k to fight; $5k to win)
Drew Fickett - $8,000 ($4k to fight; $4k to win)
Brandon Vera - $6,000 ($3k to fight; $3k to win)
Josh Koscheck - $5,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $5,000)
Spencer Fisher - $4,000 ($2k to fight; $2k to win)
Jonathan Goulet - $4,000 ($2k to fight; $2k to win)
Jon Fitch - $4,000 ($2k to fight; $2k to win)
Fabiano Scherner - $3,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $3,000)
Edwin Dewees - $2,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $2,000)
Thiago Alves - $2,000 to fight (�same as Dewees�)
Jay Hieron - $2,000 to fight (�")
Brock Larson - $2,000 to fight (�")

UFC Ultimate Fighter 2 Finale - November Event
Diego Sanchez - $24,000 ($12k to fight; $12k to win)
Kenny Florian - $12,000 ($6k to fight; $6k to win)
Rashad Evans - $10,000 ($5k to fight; $5k to win)
Joe Stevenson - $10,000 ($5k to fight; $5k to win)
Josh Burkman - $10,000 ($5k to fight; $5k to win)
Melvin Guillard - $10,000 ($5k to fight; $5k to win)
Keith Jardine - $10,000 ($5k to fight; $5k to win)
Nick Diaz - $10,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $10,000)
Brad Imes - $5,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $5,000)
Luke Cummo - $5,000 to fight (�")
Marcus Davis - $5,000 to fight (�")
Kerry Schall - $5,000 to fight (�")
Kit Cope - $2,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $2,000)

UFC 56 PPV
Matt Hughes - $110,000 ($55k to fight; $55k to win)
Jeremy Horn - $50,000 ($25k to fight; $25k to win)
Georges St. Pierre - $35,000 ($16k to fight; $19k to win)
Rich Franklin - $26,000 ($13k to fight; $13k to win)
Joe Riggs - $12,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $8,000)
Nate Quarry - $10,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $10,000)
Sean Sherk - ��
Sam Hoger - $10,000 ($5k to fight; $5k to win)
Trevor Prangley - $6,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $6,000)
Gabriel Gonzaga - $6,000 ($3k to fight; $3k to win)
Nick Thompson - $6,000 ($3k to fight; $3k to win)
Thiago Alves - $4,000 ($2k to fight; $2k to win)
Kevin Jordan - $3,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $3,000)
Jeff Newton - $2,000 to fight (win bonus would have been $2,000)

Brookenstein · « **Reply #9 on:** May 28, 2006, 12:03:02 am »

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Bet ya a beer....Gracie will take it to the ground then skill will beat strength. Should be a great fight though, not sure who is carrying it.

I'm waiting for that beer.

LtDan · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2006, 11:31:08 am »

I concede :-/

Not nearly the showing I was hoping for, Gracie just plain took a beating.

What's your brand?

Brookenstein · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2006, 11:39:01 am »

So, do you agree that the sport has evolved and BJJ is not enough anymore?

Matt Hughes is amazing.

Did you watch the undercard fights they showed after the main event? Those had some of the best knockouts I've seen in a long time.

I'm not much of a beer drinker, so you can surprise me.

Gomboman · « **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2006, 01:39:42 pm »

I agree. These guys don't make enough money. The last place player in a regular golf tournament makes around 10K. Here's from last week.

Tim Herron 1 67 65 68 68 268 $1,080,000.00
Richard Johnson 2 68 65 68 67 268 $648,000.00
Rod Pampling 3 67 63 70 70 270 $408,000.00
Stephen Ames T4 65 66 77 63 271 $209,571.43
Stewart Cink T4 64 67 72 68 271 $209,571.43
Ben Crane T4 71 65 71 64 271 $209,571.43
Peter Lonard T4 66 66 69 70 271 $209,571.43
Arron Oberholser T4 65 68 71 67 271 $209,571.43
Brett Quigley T4 68 70 67 66 271 $209,571.43
Nathan Green T4 67 67 67 70 271 $209,571.42
Corey Pavin 11 71 67 68 66 272 $150,000.00
Brian Gay T12 67 67 73 66 273 $117,600.00
Jerry Kelly T12 69 68 67 69 273 $117,600.00
Nick O'Hern T12 66 69 68 70 273 $117,600.00
Bo Van Pelt T12 67 68 67 71 273 $117,600.00
Dean Wilson T12 67 65 71 70 273 $117,600.00
Robert Allenby T17 71 67 66 70 274 $75,900.00
Woody Austin T17 72 65 67 70 274 $75,900.00
K.J. Choi T17 70 69 72 63 274 $75,900.00
Jim Furyk T17 66 67 73 68 274 $75,900.00
Fredrik Jacobson T17 71 62 70 71 274 $75,900.00
Davis Love III T17 70 69 67 68 274 $75,900.00
Chris Riley T17 68 71 66 69 274 $75,900.00
Vaughn Taylor T17 70 67 67 70 274 $75,900.00
Fred Couples T25 70 68 70 67 275 $46,800.00
David Duval T25 70 68 69 68 275 $46,800.00
Steve Flesch T25 69 68 67 71 275 $46,800.00
Shigeki Maruyama T25 69 68 70 68 275 $46,800.00
Ted Purdy T25 70 71 66 68 275 $46,800.00
Brad Faxon T30 71 68 69 68 276 $35,657.15
Bob Tway T30 69 70 69 68 276 $35,657.15
Shane Bertsch T30 70 69 67 70 276 $35,657.14
Chad Campbell T30 67 68 69 72 276 $35,657.14
Charley Hoffman T30 65 66 71 74 276 $35,657.14
Zach Johnson T30 65 69 70 72 276 $35,657.14
David Toms T30 68 66 70 72 276 $35,657.14
Joe Ogilvie T37 71 70 68 68 277 $28,200.00
Kenny Perry T37 66 70 70 71 277 $28,200.00
Wes Short, Jr. T37 70 68 70 69 277 $28,200.00
Henrik Bjornstad T40 69 64 69 76 278 $23,400.00
Daniel Chopra T40 70 64 72 72 278 $23,400.00
Steve Lowery T40 70 70 69 69 278 $23,400.00
Billy Mayfair T40 72 69 70 67 278 $23,400.00
Mike Weir T40 66 73 72 67 278 $23,400.00
Dudley Hart T45 71 70 71 67 279 $15,818.19
Duffy Waldorf T45 72 69 72 66 279 $15,818.19
Brian Bateman T45 72 68 67 72 279 $15,818.18
Rich Beem T45 69 70 70 70 279 $15,818.18
Fred Funk T45 67 70 69 73 279 $15,818.18
Robert Gamez T45 67 71 73 68 279 $15,818.18
J.L. Lewis T45 69 69 73 68 279 $15,818.18
Scott McCarron T45 70 70 70 69 279 $15,818.18
Justin Rose T45 68 69 71 71 279 $15,818.18
John Senden T45 69 70 69 71 279 $15,818.18
Camilo Villegas T45 68 69 73 69 279 $15,818.18
Jason Bohn T56 72 68 72 68 280 $13,260.00
Olin Browne T56 70 69 71 70 280 $13,260.00
Ben Curtis T56 68 68 73 71 280 $13,260.00
Bob Estes T56 69 68 71 72 280 $13,260.00
David Frost T56 73 67 73 67 280 $13,260.00
Jonathan Kaye T56 70 69 68 73 280 $13,260.00
Justin Leonard T56 72 67 71 70 280 $13,260.00
Ryan Palmer T56 66 71 75 68 280 $13,260.00
Rory Sabbatini 64 72 69 70 70 281 $12,720.00
Brandt Jobe T65 71 68 73 71 283 $12,480.00
Tom Lehman T65 72 67 73 71 283 $12,480.00
Ryan Moore T65 70 71 72 70 283 $12,480.00
Harrison Frazar T68 69 70 69 76 284 $12,120.00
J.J. Henry T68 70 70 73 71 284 $12,120.00
Joey Sindelar T68 70 71 69 74 284 $12,120.00
Ben Crenshaw T71 73 67 74 71 285 $11,760.00
Hunter Mahan T71 69 72 72 72 285 $11,760.00
Tim Petrovic T71 70 71 71 73 285 $11,760.00
Mathias Gronberg 74 67 71 73 75 286 $11,520.00
Jerry Smith 75 71 66 73 78 288 $11,400.00
James Driscoll 76 69 68 77 76 290 $11,280.00
Bill Haas 77 66 75 73 78 292 $11,160.00

Brookenstein · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2006, 01:41:35 pm »

I would suspect that golfers average more than 3 tourneys a year too.

Matt Hughes makes a decent amount of money... but he's made the same for 4 years and has remained undefeated, so even though he makes so much more than say Rich Franklin I think even he deserves more. The UFC is making major bank and they need to compensate the fighters for it. The amount Franklin makes is ridiculous and even though he is under contract, the UFC really should renegotiate it for him.

LtDan · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2006, 07:00:30 pm »

I know Gracie can kick the ass of anyone on the golfers list!

Here ya go Brook, enjoy!

Hot Tub Forum · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2006, 07:00:30 pm »

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