Follow up. So I went with a 2015 J495 the dealer had on a take back. got what I think is a good deal (roughly half what he was quoting me on the new 2017's) love the tub. got it installed and up and running Tuesday and been in twice already. kids / wife love it. still figuring things out (i.e haven't been able to pair to my phone for Bluetooth, must be something simple I am not catching on to) but aside from that so far so good. Appreciate the help everyone here gave...