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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: NorthWoodsDipper on January 29, 2007, 02:09:17 pm

Title: Is your cover flat enough to seal perfectly?
Post by: NorthWoodsDipper on January 29, 2007, 02:09:17 pm
I just noticed that my Arctic cover is not.  The Arctic people really talk about how good their covers are, but if it does not sit flat on the spa, just how efficient can it be?  Mine has at least a 3/8" bow in it.  So basically, I have gap along the top of my spa that is 3/8" x 3 feet.  I am going to call my salesman to see what he can do.  Do I have any recourse?

Steven-
Title: Re: Is your cover flat enough to seal perfectly?
Post by: wmccall on January 29, 2007, 02:16:01 pm
Is that with the lid straps on?  I know they are meant to pull down on the cover, so when they aren't secured it might bow up a bit.   Recently when I lost power for 5 days it went from 104 to 72.
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Post by: Gary on January 29, 2007, 02:16:10 pm
Check the lip of the spa with a level, you might find the lip is bowed and not the cover.

If the cover is bowed flipping the cores over might do the trick, the foam cores will get bowed and a trucker was a little too tight on the straps.
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Post by: rick_in_cleveland on January 29, 2007, 02:23:28 pm
My Marquis cover sits so tight I need to break the suction before I can fold it back
Title: Re: Is your cover flat enough to seal perfectly?
Post by: wmccall on January 29, 2007, 02:29:56 pm
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My Marquis cover sits so tight I need to break the suction before I can fold it back


Rick,  

It helps to take the foot of snow off the cover first  ;D
Title: Re: Is your cover flat enough to seal perfectly?
Post by: pg_rider on January 29, 2007, 02:47:34 pm
Related question -- do you all use all the straps with your cover?  Mine has four total, two in the "front" (where I get in) and two in the back.  It would be very inconvenient to have to fasten and unfasten the two in the back so I leave them undone permanently.  Am I losing any insulation effectiveness by doing this?
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Post by: bosco0633 on January 29, 2007, 02:58:01 pm
does not seem right to me.  As for the straps, I strapped and locked down the one side that the cover lifter folds to.  The other side, I just attach the straps on really windy days.  Arctic backs their product and the service is wonderful, so they should come out soon and let you know.  Maybe it is a matter of you doing something wrong.
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Post by: tony on January 29, 2007, 03:01:50 pm
My cover sits tight..no gaps.  I never use the straps.
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Post by: Chad on January 29, 2007, 03:13:23 pm
My Jacuzzi cover fits well with no gapping and I keep all straps fastened when not in use. I even lock 'em. :-[
Title: Re: Is your cover flat enough to seal perfectly?
Post by: windsurfdog on January 29, 2007, 04:10:34 pm
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My Marquis cover sits so tight I need to break the suction before I can fold it back
rick,

My cover also has a slight suction to it so I'm comfortable that it is sealing properly.

And pg_rider said:
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Related question -- do you all use all the straps with your cover?  Mine has four total, two in the "front" (where I get in) and two in the back.  It would be very inconvenient to have to fasten and unfasten the two in the back so I leave them undone permanently.  Am I losing any insulation effectiveness by doing this?
pg,

Though aesthetically it may not be appealing, I use bungee cords on both the front and back as opposed to the strap clips.  With the exposure to wind that my spa experiences, I've found this to be effective, especially on the back where I do not have to undo or redo when opening/closing the cover.
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Post by: rick_in_cleveland on January 29, 2007, 04:12:58 pm
The only time I use my straps is if I go on vacation otherwise I never use them.  And yes I had to scoop the snow off.  First 6 inches and the another 2 as it took me 30 mins to get back out after I cleaned it off.

You can't beat sitting in the tub at 17 degrees and 2 inches an hour of lake effect coming down on you.
Title: Re: Is your cover flat enough to seal perfectly?
Post by: anne on January 29, 2007, 04:57:44 pm
I have an arctic, and I think I have a good cover seal since I get a little suction when lifting the cover. I dont use any of the straps.
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Post by: SugarBear on January 29, 2007, 06:48:24 pm
I also have an Arctic.  When the cover first gets put down it does have a slight wobble to it, but I think this is from air getting trapped inside.  When I go to open it up it does have the suction that everyone else seems to be talking about.  I only use the straps when I am going to be away for several days.
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Post by: Reese on January 29, 2007, 06:55:16 pm
I wonder if the suction everyone is talking about is due to the moist skirt clinging to the sides.  It seems unlikely that a lid with warm air underneath it would seal to the container.
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Post by: Richs100 on January 29, 2007, 08:19:55 pm
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I wonder if the suction everyone is talking about is due to the moist skirt clinging to the sides.  It seems unlikely that a lid with warm air underneath it would seal to the container.

I also used to have a suction between the cover and tub on my old prodigy, more so as the cover got older and heavier.  The suction was between the cover and the rim of the tub, not with the skirt.  I also remember the suction  could be quite strong.   I have not seen this with my new Envoy yet.

I had never thought about it, but the "suction lock" would seem to provide a better insulation seal.  (I wish the envoy did the same thing!)
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Post by: ndabunka on January 29, 2007, 08:28:39 pm
Mine is flat as well.  Sometimes there is a little suction issue, but not a whole lot.  It it's not flat...you have to send it back  (OJ. S)  How long have you owned it? If it's new, there's no quesiton... get them to replace it ASAP.
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Post by: Chas on January 29, 2007, 10:04:41 pm
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You can't beat sitting in the tub at 17 degrees and 2 inches an hour of lake effect coming down on you.

Actually, yes you can.

(http://www.magicmud.com/P%20Hot%20Tub.jpg)

 8-)
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Post by: Brookenstein on January 29, 2007, 10:36:49 pm
My tub (Envoy) used to have a tight fit with suction.  Then in the summer I propped up the tub with tennis balls, so the water wouldn't get too hot and I've never had that fit back.

Also, I never strap the tub closed unless we are going out of town.
Title: Re: Is your cover flat enough to seal perfectly?
Post by: anne on January 30, 2007, 01:54:11 am
I did the same thing this summer with tennis balls, and it had no adverse effect on the cover. I wonder if the weight of the cover on the tennis balls along with summer heat warped it a bit- maybe it could get flattened out again with weight on top?
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Post by: bwbski22 on January 30, 2007, 05:17:31 am
im kinda worried/interested to see how my j470 cover works since the back side, by waterfalls, is like 7 inches higher then the other side.  there is a soft seal on the edge of the cover on that side to make a tighter seal.  we will see.
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Post by: Han Solo on January 30, 2007, 12:47:45 pm
The cover on my Sundance spa sits perfectly flat, and I also feel a little suction when I remove it. The cover also has side skirts around the whole thing to help keep cold air out. Since I have a son that just turned five, I always keep my straps locked when not in use, which I feel is a good idea not only for him, but in case any of my neighbor's kids some how end up in my back yard. When I measured where the strap locks were going to go, I deliberately placed them a quarter inch lower so when I lock the straps in place, they tend to pull the cover down a little tighter. It must work pretty good, as my spa only loses between two to three degrees in a twelve hour period between heating cycles with the cover on. Anyone that has a spa where young kids are present should really consider keeping the cover on and their straps locked when the spa is not in use.
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Post by: golferm on January 30, 2007, 01:19:05 pm
I tend to get a little steam coming out of the middle, where the two larger pieces meet.  I'm not sure if I need to push the cover on tighter.

Mark
Title: Re: Is your cover flat enough to seal perfectly?
Post by: tanstaafl2 on January 30, 2007, 01:42:10 pm
Cover on my spa seems to fit flat but haven't noticed any real suction on opening. I have also noticed that steam must be escaping a bit at the crease as it does have a condensation drip on the concrete below that is causing a lovely little geen moldy spot that I have to keep on top of. Don't usually see steam rising so it must be condensing under the skirt and then dripping down.

Have tried adjusting it, making sure the skirt is down all the way around and the little extra piece on each end of the crease to fill the gap up is in alignment but can't seem to completely stop it from dripping.

But it seems to hold the heat well so I guess I can't complain too much.
Title: Re: Is your cover flat enough to seal perfectly?
Post by: NorthWoodsDipper on January 31, 2007, 06:26:12 am
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does not seem right to me.  As for the straps, I strapped and locked down the one side that the cover lifter folds to.  The other side, I just attach the straps on really windy days.  Arctic backs their product and the service is wonderful, so they should come out soon and let you know.  Maybe it is a matter of you doing something wrong.

Hmmmm..... not sure what I would be doing wrong.  I leave the back straps loose enough so they don't hinder movement and so I never have to remove them (like you do).  I really never use the front straps at all.  The gap is in the back.  I can press down on the cover and it will flatten out, but will not stay there.  It is like it is warped or something.

I think I will take a photo and send it to my dealer, since he is 1 1/2 hours away.

Steven-