Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Spa1960 on December 15, 2006, 08:20:50 pm
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Hi People,
I am new to this forum. We have owned a ThermoSpa Hot tub for 9 years, the only issue was the heater. No other problems or issues with it and we loved it. We have recently moved and I miss my hot tub. I am thinkiing about a Artesain (Santa Cruz) , but I am concerned about "foamed" tubes.
I have noticed that most of the hot tubes are Full Foamed, and I am woundering about several issues:
Leaks - If they happen, how hard is it to find them and fix them?
Rodents - Field mice and other critters getting into the foam and nesting?
Full Faom compared to DeadAir Space - cost of operation?
Are there different types of foam used in Full Foamed tubes?
I did post this question in anther Hot Tub fourm, but the only replies I recieved were from the Administrator, but he also sells "Thermally Sealed" (DeadAir) Spas, so his insite might be slanted. So, anyone that owns / has owned a Full Foamed Spa; I would like to hear form you.
Also, any information about Artesain Spas (Island Series, Santa Cruz) would be grat.
Thanks
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You can do a search here and you will find it is an issue that is debated endlessly, full foam vs. thermal pane.
All I can say is the following major brands are full foam, using different techniques:
Hot Spring
Caldera
Jacuzzi
Sundance
Marquis
Artesian
D1
and many more.
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I did post this question in anther Hot Tub fourm, but the only replies I recieved were from the Administrator, but he also sells "Thermally Sealed" (DeadAir) Spas, so his insite might be slanted. So, anyone that owns / has owned a Full Foamed Spa; I would like to hear form you.
Gee- wonder who that might be ::)
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Hi People,
Leaks - If they happen, how hard is it to find them and fix them?
Rodents - Field mice and other critters getting into the foam and nesting?
Full Faom compared to DeadAir Space - cost of operation?
Leaks: If the spa is well built this shouldn't be a concern. However, full foam can be more diffcult to fix (not much more if you're ever done it but yes, more) if the leak is not in the equipment compartment (where they aften are for a variety of reasons). However, the full foam peiople will also say the foam process makes leaks less apt to happen in teh first place. I wouldn't worry about this either way IF it's a quality spa.
Rodents: The rodents don't care if it's fully foamed or not. They are just looking for a gap to enter. Find a well built spa that is sealed against critters.
Cost of operation: Full foam will work very well at holding the heat in. A well built thermopane spa (dead air spa) will also. What you want to avoid is a poorly built thermopane that allows the air to escape.
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I own an Artesian Island spa - it's a great spa IMO.
I've owned it for about a year and a half and have had no big issues with it.
A good spa is a good spa and as long as you don't buy junk (see Brewman's comment) then either will be good.
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looks like JA is on the prowel for a new customer
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THANKS PEOPLE,
I got some good feeback, better than the other Hot Tub fourm, more "balanced". Keep the comments comming, I will be making my decision soon. Hope to hear from a few more people.
Thanks again :)
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Get the 30 jets dont waste money on the s/steel escutions unless they are throwing them in, get the circ pump option and the synthetic skirt,waterfall if offered is cool but not needed unless you want, colored lights can be bought on ebay for very little and will plug right in. The Santa cruz is a very nice spa we sold alot when we were selling artesian.
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Get the 30 jets dont waste money on the s/steel escutions unless they are throwing them in, get the circ pump option and the synthetic skirt,waterfall if offered is cool but not needed unless you want, colored lights can be bought on ebay for very little and will plug right in. The Santa cruz is a very nice spa we sold alot when we were selling artesian.
I can appreciate what is being said but as with anything it depends on what you like as far as looks and the want/need of bells and whistles.
In 2005 the Artesian Island series used grey jets and I guess with some colors it would be OK but sometimes the looks are what gives the tub some pizzaz (sp?). I have the SS rings and they sure do look nice - no other function but looks. I will also say that some people love the waterfall but I don't have one nor do I regret having not having it.
Everything else besides the upgraded ozone system I got with my tub but is a circ pump really needed? I would think not. With the circ pump you do get the "better" heater but it has less output.
The nice thing about this line is you can choose what options you want/need and customize it.