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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: nicker on November 16, 2006, 09:33:48 am

Title: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: nicker on November 16, 2006, 09:33:48 am
Well for two years no problems with my ways but lately my tub just isn't right for some reason.    Right around the 2 mth mark my water feels funny, tub walls a little slick.  TDS seems high for that short of time.

What is this method that most people go by and where can I find the details so I can compair what I am doing differently.  I hear of people talking about it all the time but fo the life of me I can't remember the name.

thanks
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: jfish63 on November 16, 2006, 10:13:24 am
http://www.rhtubs.com/bbs/FAQ.htm  There are 2 methods listed. I go by the vermonters method.
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: Brewman on November 16, 2006, 10:37:46 am
I also pretty much go with Vermonter's method.  
And keep Chas' rule in mind-

 The simplest and least expensive solution to bad water is new water.

I know that's not a direct Chas quote, but that's in essence what he says.

Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: nicker on November 16, 2006, 10:55:50 am
I realize that in most cases the cheapest way to clean up your water/tub is new water. I was just curious as to why my water is only lasting the 2mth mark lately when use/chems etc has not changed.  

The only thing I really do different then the vermont method is I use MPS to shock.  now the MPS I use does have some sanitizer in it.  I really like it but I wonder if I could get away with a by weekly shock.  I may try that.  Or at least test my water to determine if I can get a way with a by weekly shock.

Does anyone else shock by weekend and hows it work for you?
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: drewstar on November 16, 2006, 11:39:55 am
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I also pretty much go with Vermonter's method.  
And keep Chas' rule in mind-

 The simplest and least expensive solution to bad water is new water.

I know that's not a direct Chas quote, but that's in essence what he says.


"Water is the cheapest chemical you can add to your tub" I think is how it goes.

And drewstars add on is....

....Unless it's -10 degrees outside  ;)

Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: drewstar on November 16, 2006, 11:42:50 am
nicker, as far as shocking less,

How often are you using the tub, and how many folks are in it?

I kinda go with a 10 bather/use  rule.   one person using the tub every other day or so, then sure 2 weeks works for me.

2 people every day? Once a week.

10 people in one day? Shock the next day.

I run 03 and use dichlor and have good results.  YMMV.
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: nicker on November 16, 2006, 12:50:51 pm
drewstar typically its me using at least every other night and on weekends two of us at least one night.

Maybe its the brand of chemicle I am using.  My Alk is a different MFG, but that is about it.  But I would assume there is not much difference in Alk and PH chems is there?
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: drewstar on November 16, 2006, 01:29:05 pm
I'm far from a chem pro Nick, and like you for 2 years no crazy problems. I've stuck with the same chem brand and dist, so  I can't say if that would make a big dif. I don't think the Alk and PH could be significantly different. (Unless the active % is different?) Check the lables.

I assume the clarity is fine?

You know, they say the 03 doens't last much longer the 2 yrs, but I would think you'd see a clarity issue if that started to die on you.

I'd dump and run. Maybe a one time fluke?

As far as shocking, with your use, I'd move it out to 10 days or so and see what happens.
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: tileman on November 16, 2006, 02:40:27 pm
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I realize that in most cases the cheapest way to clean up your water/tub is new water. I was just curious as to why my water is only lasting the 2mth mark lately when use/chems etc has not changed.  

The only thing I really do different then the vermont method is I use MPS to shock.  now the MPS I use does have some sanitizer in it.  I really like it but I wonder if I could get away with a by weekly shock.  I may try that.  Or at least test my water to determine if I can get a way with a by weekly shock.

Does anyone else shock by weekend and hows it work for you?

According to Vermonter, MPS has NO sanitizer in it.
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: Tman122 on November 16, 2006, 05:00:24 pm
But they make MPS with dichlor in it....I think it's called, like, enhanced shock or something.
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: tileman on November 16, 2006, 05:08:01 pm
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But they make MPS with dichlor in it....I think it's called, like, enhanced shock or something.

I did not know that. :-? I wonder if they put enough in it to actually get a "shock". Or is it just a normal dose? I'd like to learn a little more about that "enhanced shock".
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: IDW on November 16, 2006, 07:54:16 pm
A ozonator stops working after about two years
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: tileman on November 16, 2006, 07:57:59 pm
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A ozonator stops working after about two years

What are you commenting on? :-?
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: IDW on November 16, 2006, 08:02:10 pm
The original question
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: tileman on November 16, 2006, 08:10:05 pm
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The original question

Sorry, it's just alot easier when you click the quote icon, when multiple people have posted.
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: Tman122 on November 17, 2006, 04:50:39 am
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A ozonator stops working after about two years

Some can go much longer and some can only make it a year. It's kinda hard to make a statement like this with so many different types of 03 generators on the market today.
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: tony on November 17, 2006, 03:00:31 pm
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A ozonator stops working after about two years

Some can go much longer and some can only make it a year. It's kinda hard to make a statement like this with so many different types of 03 generators on the market today.

My ozonator is almost five years old and still cranking away.  No chip or bulb to replace and nothing to clean.  I've replaced the tubing from the unit to the Mazzei injector and check valves.
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: tony on November 17, 2006, 03:03:04 pm
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But they make MPS with dichlor in it....I think it's called, like, enhanced shock or something.

Enhanced Shock by SpaGuard (BioGuard).  MPS and Dichlor.  Supposed to be a good product.  Of course you could just make your own ;D.
Title: Re: Proper Chemicle Method
Post by: Tman122 on November 17, 2006, 04:59:09 pm
That's what I do, 1TBLS dichlor and 3 TBLS MPS