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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: jenni_ann_t on July 26, 2006, 12:38:30 am

Title: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: jenni_ann_t on July 26, 2006, 12:38:30 am
I have been doing research on spas and the most important factor is my electricity bill in the winter!  I live in Minnesota so the weather gets extremely cold sometimes.  Of course I would like someting comfortable also.  I was wondering if someone could suggest some cost efficient hot tubs to maintain during the winter months.  From the reviews I have read, so far Beachcomber and Marquis have good reviews for being well insulated and cost efficient.  If you have personal experience in cold winters in your hot tub and still are happy with your electricity bill, I would like to know which spa you have.  ALso, if you have advice on this topic, I would like to hear it.

Thanks,
Jennifer
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: MarKee on July 26, 2006, 02:25:09 am
Energy efficiency is huge with Marquis.  There was a post on here several months ago about someone who lost power for several days and the spa only drapped 3 degrees in freezing temperatures.  You should visit the spa companies that are in your area for all brands and ask about your concerns.  Your nearest dealer is probably Valley Pools for Marquis, their website is http://www.valleypools.com
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: Tman122 on July 26, 2006, 05:40:53 am
What part of Minnesota are you in? Any of the major brands will run about the same to operate. And if 25-35 dollars a month on average is to much cost then don't get a hot tub. In the dead of winter it could go as high as 35-45 or even more to run even the best insulated tub out there. But in the summer it may not go as high as 15-20 bucks to filter and heat for a month. Theres alot of contributing factors, amount of use, placement, ect.

There are several brands that fit this bill, Marquis, Hot Spring, Sundance and Arctic to name just a few. If your in the south MPLS/STP almost all major brands are represented. If you in the north several are also.
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on July 26, 2006, 05:46:13 am
also mentioned to keep the tub more economical is the blanket that floats on top of the water and helps insulate, along with a good cover (covers seem to be pretty decent from the factory with the 'big brands' from what I've read). I've only gone thru part of some chilly weather with our tub, this coming winter will be its first 'real' test.
Something else I wonder about, someone smart help me on this one.....would it be cheaper, after initial heatup period, to keep a larger tub at temp, or a smaller one? Is there any measurable difference known? (this doesn't include jets, lights, etc.....just heat)
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: Rayman on July 26, 2006, 08:45:29 am
I live just outside of Toronto (Canada).  I have a Beachcomber, I have only gone through one winter with it and I didn't see my electrical bill go up more than $20 that's including the rate increases put through.  I can only comment on my experience with this tub and I am sure all the top major brands have similiar efficiencies.  

Hope your in Hot water soon......

Ray
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: drewstar on July 26, 2006, 09:01:01 am
I live in New England, and the winters can get cold, (although not as bad as Canada and MN)  ;D

I have a tiger River Caspain spa and it's performed well for me in the winter.  As others said, $25-$35 in the winter (This is greatly dependent  the weather, and how much you use the tub.   Personally, I belive a quality, closed cell full foam spa is your best deal for insulation.  

Poorly designed, "inexspensive"  tubs can cost a fortune. I had a used older tub and my electrical bill jumped by over $100 in Febrary of one winter. Arrrrrrgh.

Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: marks on July 26, 2006, 09:59:33 am
I have a Beachcomber, but live in a warm climate (Tucson, AZ).  The temperature only gets in the 30's overnight in the winter, so it might not be a good comparision.  The tub has not raised my electric bill more than $15 per month.  In the summer it is less than $10.  I use the tub at least 5 nights a week.
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: Anoroc on July 26, 2006, 10:43:29 am
I am no expert here but my hs jetsetter i had over the winter did very well.  I now have a vanguard so i will see how it does in the winter.


Good luck
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: spahappy on July 26, 2006, 12:18:28 pm
I live in weastern North Dakota so we have the same climate. My Coleman has never ran more than $30.00 outside in the coldest winter months.
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: nicker on July 26, 2006, 01:33:42 pm
First of all you should start looking and figure out your price range.  Pretty much all the big names mentioned on this board will be pretty much the same in operational costs.  Keep in mind the factors that also determin operational costs.  Size of tub, amount of use, temperature outside and hydro costs.    You also have to find a tub that you are comfortable in.  No sense buying a tub that you don't like to sit in.   Typically the the good ones are all around the $20-$25 per month  ($1.00 a day).   I am sure there are other MN people on this board that can put there 2 cents in.
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: Brewman on July 26, 2006, 02:05:10 pm
 Minnesota here- south metro suburbs.
Our spa is an Optima, and it's fine as far as energy costs go.  I'd say that the $1/day rule of thumb is pretty close.  As others have said, all of the "good" spas are pretty close to the same power consumption.  
Avoid the cheap spas sold in Big Box stores, they cut corners to keep prices low, and insulation is one way to cut costs.  Pay up front or pay forever..
Our electric bill stays pretty constant year round- in the summer the a/c runs it up, and in the winter the spa does.  But it's so worth it when you're soaking in mid winter!
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: In Canada eh on July 26, 2006, 11:43:06 pm
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I live in New England, and the winters can get cold, (although not as bad as Canada and MN)



Hey !!!! I believe Southwestern Ontario is actually south of New England ;D
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: Cola on July 27, 2006, 01:44:47 am
Well I own a Marquis which is similar to a most high end spas when it comes to energy efficiency.  Most full foam tubs are likely similar in heat retention.  If you want the best for heat retention in realy damn cold climates, look at an Arctic.
Steve
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: jenni_ann_t on July 27, 2006, 07:47:03 am
My husband and I are really impressed with all the wonderful advice we have received on here.  I haven't looked into the Artic but I am seeing their name more and more on this website.  I also noticed the Beachcomber seems to be very efficient for people who own them and the Artic and Marquis has been recommended more than once.  THANK YOU so much to everyone who has given advice so far.    :)

Jennifer
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: JcDenton on July 27, 2006, 08:10:19 am
I own an Arctic, and to tell you the truth, I have no idea exactly how much it costs/mth (I am in Manitoba) - We never really noticed the change-over I guess, which suggests its probably on-line with the other major manufacturers listed above.

All I care is that the hot is hot when I want it - even if its -20C outside.


Jc
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: dadofrad on July 27, 2006, 09:23:35 am
Live in God's country  ;D ;) Bemidji, Mn First city on the Mississippi and my D-1 only runs me 16-18 dollars per mnth. Its out side expossed to the north. Last winter we had a couple of days where the high for the day only reached -30(that 30 delow 0 ) And  yes schools closed for the day.  
Title: Re: Need advice...least expensive in cold winters
Post by: Spatech_tuo on July 27, 2006, 11:14:28 am
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 If you want the best for heat retention in realy damn cold climates, look at an Arctic.


I know it would be ironic but I wish they would ban use of the word "BEST" on this website unless it's immediately followed by "IMO"