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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: East_TX_Spa on September 28, 2005, 10:18:07 am

Title: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 28, 2005, 10:18:07 am
Please, have a licensed electrician wire your spa and do not use extension cords.  Thank you.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/fire.jpg)
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(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/fire2.jpg)

Terminator
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: nicker on September 28, 2005, 10:24:09 am
Id much rather see Tammy.....sorry
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 28, 2005, 10:28:21 am
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Id much rather see Tammy.....sorry


Me too, my friend, me too. :(  I can't do Tammy every day, so I try to find other interesting things for ya'll.

Terminator
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: wmccall on September 28, 2005, 11:22:17 am
Are you telling me Jim is right about HS? ;D
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: freddortort on September 28, 2005, 11:35:15 am
In the first picture. . . . . . is that SOMEONE sitting on the green chair?  OUCH
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: cappykat on September 28, 2005, 12:04:20 pm
Were these fires extension cord fires??  What else would cause a spa to catch on fire?
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 28, 2005, 12:33:08 pm
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Are you telling me Jim is right about HS? ;D

Here's one of the many people he claims HS has killed. ;)

*****Warning! Graphic Photo*********




(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/scary.jpg)

Terminator
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 28, 2005, 12:59:12 pm
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Were these fires extension cord fires??  What else would cause a spa to catch on fire?


I'm not sure what caused the fires, cappykat.  These are not HotSpring spas.  I found these pics when I did a search for "hot tub fires".  These were the only ones I found.

Improper wiring, poor quality materials, extension cords, lightning, any number of factors can cause a fire.  It is a very rare occurence.

Terminator
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: amat1950 on September 28, 2005, 01:05:04 pm
Boy those are scarey pictures. Thank goodness the tub was not inside thei homes. Hope it never happens to any of us .
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: cappykat on September 28, 2005, 01:31:44 pm
Agreed.  I sure wouldn't chance using an extension cord...of any kind!

One more reason for putting a hot-tub outside.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: HotTubMan on September 28, 2005, 02:16:59 pm
We dropped a tub off a couple of weeks ago.

Customer calls, tubs been working fine, except now there is no power.

"Have you tried resetting the breaker?"

"Yes, I also had my electrician check and the hot tub is getting power"

We go out. There is power making it to the tub....Red 122V, Black 122V, White 128V!

Trace it back to the switch box...white is not connected to pig tail. Some electirican you got there!

Upon further investigation, the house is  running on fuse box, not breakers and....the swith outside has its wires running into the 30A oven plug in his kitchen..along with the oven.

I should call him and have him look at these pictures!
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: Mendocino101 on September 28, 2005, 02:32:05 pm
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Here's one of the many people he claims HS has killed. ;)

*****Warning! Graphic Photo*********




(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/scary.jpg)

Terminator


Well.....I feel very bad this happened but there is a silver lining ......It certainly puts an end the TP vs FF design as these FF HS are still holding hot water just look at the steam coming out of them .....very impressive
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: drewstar on September 28, 2005, 03:17:31 pm
WOuld having a non ETL or UL listed spa be a fire hazzard?

Would  swapping parts in and out (Blowers, pumps, and the such) be a fire hazzard?

Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on September 28, 2005, 03:28:57 pm
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I can't do Tammy every day
Terminator



umm.......... ah.... oh forget it.


NOW VOTE

1. The doc showed poor taste in this response.
2. The doc was funny.
3. I though of this too but didn't have the guts to post it.
4. It's ok, Terminator has admitted to a common problem.
5. Doc should remove this post.
6. Bill should remove this post if doc doesn't get to it first.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: SerjicalStrike on September 28, 2005, 04:28:23 pm
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Post by: Spatech_tuo on September 28, 2005, 04:34:18 pm
3. I thought of this too but didn't have the guts had too much class to post it
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: freddortort on September 28, 2005, 04:49:24 pm
1,2,3, and 4
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: jsimo7 on September 28, 2005, 04:59:39 pm
It's a play on words, lighten up, nothing dirty unless you think that way. 1 2 3 & 4  It means he can't get any work done beacuse he is looking at the pic'o'the day..............ALL DAY!!!     LOL!!
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: cappykat on September 28, 2005, 05:52:12 pm
HAAAAA!!!  I think that's what you call a "Fruedian slip" ;D ;D  I think Terminator knew exactly what he was saying...JK, Terminator!!
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 28, 2005, 05:54:15 pm
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HAAAAA!!!  I think that's what you call a "Fruedian slip" ;D ;D  I think Terminator knew exactly what he was saying...JK, Terminator!!

:-X ;)

Terminator
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: cappykat on September 28, 2005, 06:05:27 pm
LOLLLLL!!!!
Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: rubiconruby on September 28, 2005, 10:07:47 pm
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Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: rfraboni on September 29, 2005, 08:42:39 pm
Do you have any information about the cause of any of the spa fires?   Were they caused by improper wiring size, bad grounding, water shortage of electronics, pumps running dry and causing too much heat.  

I am asking to try and determine the causes just to ensure we do not make the same mistakes as those unfortunate owners.

I do plan on having a licensed electrician install the wiring or at least do all the hookups even if I were to pull wiring, a coworker is an electrician and has offered to do this for me.

Title: Re: Hot Tub Pic o' the Day 9-28-05 (Expanded)
Post by: J._McD on September 29, 2005, 10:14:31 pm
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Do you have any information about the cause of any of the spa fires?   Were they caused by improper wiring size, bad grounding, water shortage of electronics, pumps running dry and causing too much heat.  

I am asking to try and determine the causes just to ensure we do not make the same mistakes as those unfortunate owners.

I do plan on having a licensed electrician install the wiring or at least do all the hookups even if I were to pull wiring, a coworker is an electrician and has offered to do this for me.


Buy an Identifiable brand from a reputable dealer and inquire about certifications like UL, ETL etc.  The major brand manufacturers talked about and mentioned on this board are very large financial organizations that are not knowingly going to subject themselves to lawsuits because of faulty products.

On the other hand, there are those who would make unauthorized modifications, but I would consider them to be very few and far between, but yet possible.

Don't buy from the lowest bidder or a dealer that has "assembled" all of the parts to make a spa, excuse me, that would be a "custom spa".

These pictures are indicative of realities that do exist and that have indeed occured over the past 30 years.  There is a national website that register all fires and the cause of fires and these pictures represent only a few of such occurences.

Most fires are caused by faulty equipment (heaters) that do not shut off, loose wire connections, aluminum wire (which is a no no), and faulty circuits.  you can rest assured that ALL of the manufacturers along with UL, ETL and all other testing labratories are fully aware of the possibilities and are forever viligant and alert for them.

In the past, even notable names have had fire issues, but today's Hot Tubs are far removed from the chance of this occurring, but then, anything can be modified or incorrectly wired.