Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: rickw on September 16, 2005, 08:56:41 am
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This forum has been great. After weeks of wet testing and talking to salesmen, we think we now have a reasonable choice.
We don't need a six man.
We decided that the following were the most important (in our order of priority)
1.) Comfort during wet test
2.) Control of individual jets
3.) Construction
4.) Warranty
5.) Dealer
6.) Price
7.) Delivery
8.) Color
If the wet test goes well, we believe we will sign the dotted line for an Artesian Quail Ridge. What's a good price? What can I expect?
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C'mon guys. Four hours and no responses?? Doesn't anyone have anything to say about Artesian Platinum model Quail Ridge? Prices? Good? Bad?
About to take the plunge.....
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The only thing that caught my eye was your quote about not needing a 6 man tub.
Just because it has 6 seats doens't mean 6 adults can comfortably use it. My tub is 7' x 7' (no lounger) has 6 seats but feels "cramped" with more than 4 adults in it. From what I've read this is true for most of the tubs. So if you feel you're getting a 5 person at once spa, you might want to re-think that.
Why don't you tell us what the price is? Many of us may not be familliar with your particuliar tub, but can compare $ to what we have.
Good luck.
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After a lot of discussion with owners of tubs, we decided that it is not likely we are going to have a lot of parties and things like that. Oue feeling was that 95% of the time, three of us will be using it.
I don't know the final sell price. I asked them to prepare a decent sell price with everything, cover. lifter, install, delivery, chemicals, steps.
They told me it lists for 13k but they could sell it for 30% off list. That would be $9100.
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We bought an Artesian Diamond spa last month. It's part of Artesian's Gold line . . . a step down from Platinum. We paid $7600 including steps, ozone, chemicals, cover lifter, delivery and tax. Assuming that your $9100 excludes tax . . . you are paying about 2,000 more that we did . . . but it's a more expensive line generally so not sure if prices can be compared.
Hope this helps.
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Tell me that's $9100 canadian dollars.
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It's US
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Looked at the specs...5 pumps? Holy crap. :o I understand now the $9100 price tag.
Sorry.
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The individual seat control caught my eye. It is intriguing. I'll let everyone know after we try it out. Still a little worried about the price.
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Maybe this isn't a concern, but how energy efficient is 5 pumps?
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If 95% of the time you will have 3 or less in the tub, why would you need a tub with 5 pumps
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Maybe this isn't a concern, but how energy efficient is 5 pumps?
If those 5 pumps pull the same current as two bigger ones, then the energy consumption is equal. I'm thinking either these are smaller draw pumps, or there is a limit to how many can run at the same time.
The pumps can be smaller and be effective if they are only powering a limited amount of jets.
If this spa runs on a 50 amp breaker, then it's energy consumption while under power is probably on par with other spas. It's insulation and cover have more to do with efficiency, since the pumps are only on a little each day.
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Hi!
I have a Artesian Piper Glen since May, cost to run, about 35.00 month US. Just me and my wife, almost every night for about 45 min. After I add chemicals I run all the pumps again, (20 mins.) so that the water mixes. great tub, no problems, clean, clear water all the time. The tub has Oz, with Nature 2 and I just use diclor, about one teaspoon after each use. I leave it set on 104 degrees all the time. It is used late at night between 10:00 and 12:00, rest of the time it's covered, outside, about 40 miles north of Boston I tink Artesian is a good choise
john
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The pump size on Artesian's platinum series is 3 HP I believe. If only 2 people are in the tub then only 2 pumps are on. Each seat has a pump associated with it.
Of course this is theoretical usage because we get in the tub and my youngest has to have all the motors on.
$9,100 is about right as I think the Piper Glen is about $10,000 at my dealer. As with any higher end tub, the Artesians come fully equipt at that price. I believe they come with ozone and SS rings around jets. About the only thing you need to add is the coverlifter (approx $200) and steps (approx $100); if you really need a radio - I think it's about $700 - not too sure though.
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Vinny, is correct. The spa comes standard with five 3 HP Pumps. Each seat has its own individual pump, so if two people are in the spa, then only two pumps are running. Of course, there is a sixth pump, that is not counted, but that is the 24 hour circulation pump. The spa does run on a 50 amp breaker. The Quailridge is in the Platinum Line, so the prices will run 1500-2000 more than the Gold Series. In the Platinum Line, not only does each person have their own pump, but also the patented Direct-Flo Controller, allowing each user to adjust water and air flo, from 65 - 125 GPM's. Different from spas equipped with Diverter Valves, the Direct Flo will not take or change pressure to another person seat. As always, it's best to wet test, to see if this spa is right for you. The Quail Ridge will seat 5 adults comfortably. Enjoy the wet test. Dave.
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My advice from hard-won experience - get a slightly bigger tub than you think you need. Get one your whole family can get in without the water overflowing. Get one that the few other couples you would consider getting in a tub with will be comfortable in with you. The Quail Ridge has a lounger, which takes up a lot of room. It didn't look to me like four adult people would be comfortable in there.
JJ - Vita Joli.....2 weeks later, Vita Nuage
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JJ - I think you may be right. Wet testing this weekend sometime. The DW is finally getting into it and pointed out the same thing.
After first deciding that size was not important, she's thinking if we are going to spend 8-9K, it better be big.
I did wet test a Piper and LOVED it. I could not find any seat or any feature I didn't like.
Price will be a problem.........
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The Piper Glen is awesome. I lusted after one, but the dealer had just switched to them from Sundance. I went with a dealer that had been carrying Vita since 92.
The reason it seats a lot more is because one of the preferred corner seats is not taken up by the filter.
If price is the issue, the Island Series, maybe the Grand Cayman, seems like a good value to me.
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My advice would be IF you were able to afford the price of the Quail Ridge - a few hundred more isn't going to be a big deal over the life of the spa! For me, I couldn't justify the $3,000 price difference between the Cayman and the Piper.
The Cayman is similar but very different than the Piper in terms of jetting. The neck jet seats although great can be a little confining if you have a long torso. I love the Cayman and with the 3 pump system the jets do have a lot of power IMO but apparently the feel of the Piper (or any Platinum) is different. The Island series doesn't have direct flow and it doesn't have the pump speed adjustment.
If you do have any questions about the Cayman, just ask!
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I didn't realize the Island Series didn't have the variable flow control. I agree with Vinny, If you were going to buy the Quail Ridge, The Piper Glenn can't be that much more. The variable flow is a great feature unique in the spa industry. It's really just an air bleed into the suction side of the pump, but the effect is great. I can't understand why more spa companies don't offer it instead of two speed pumps.
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... I agree with Vinny, If you were going to buy the Quail Ridge, The Piper Glenn can't be that much more....
I paid $9999.00 before taxes for my Piper Glen