Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: joking103 on June 28, 2005, 02:50:00 pm
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Chas,
My husband went to check at the supply house (two different ones) for the Sub panel Square D and GE they said they never heard of a split 20/30 only the 50 for spa's.
As I posted in my original GFCI topic, the first HS dealer said $400 (not such a nice guy) :'( The other dealer Caldera said $150 and of course we'd still like a better deal, if there is one to be had.
If you can help with a GE or square D P/N or otherwise please advise. Thanks a bunch!
I gotta get this thing plugged in! ;D
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Chas,
My husband went to check at the supply house (two different ones) for the Sub panel Square D and GE they said they never heard of a split 20/30 only the 50 for spa's.
As I posted in my original GFCI topic, the first HS dealer said $400 (not such a nice guy) :'( The other dealer Caldera said $150 and of course we'd still like a better deal, if there is one to be had.
If you can help with a GE or square D P/N or otherwise please advise. Thanks a bunch!
I gotta get this thing plugged in! ;D
A t the supply house, it is not called a 20/30 split breaker box. It is called a 4-8 circuit, rain tight 100 amp panel, and the two seperate 2 pole 20 and 30 amp gfci breakers. The most expensive items are the breakers. ;)
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right separate parts, I get that. But why 100 AMP panel if you only need 50? I apologize in advance if that is a dumb question :-[
I did find just the breakers $$$ does that mean that 150 may actually be the good "deal"? Me and my deals... Yeash!
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Don't worry about the rating of the panel. I'm not sure if you could even find a 4/8 panel rated at 50 amps, 100 sure won't hurt. Just make sure it's rated for outdoor use, and is compatible with the brand of breakers you have.
Brewman
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Yeah, the average electrician will also try to tell you that he has never heard of a spa needing two breakers. I deal with that all the time.
You just need any raintite 'load center' or 'sub panel,' and two breakers. The breakers need to be GFCI-type breakers and they need to be: a 20amp two pole and a 30 amp two pole.
If that is what the Caldera guy is offering for $150, then you had better grab it. Those breakers alone could cost you more than that!
Just double check that the Caldera guy is offering a 20/30 and not a single 50.
:)
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Chas,
Is there any difference between the sub-panel for the Caldera Spas and the Hotspring Spas?
If there isn’t a difference why are you Hotspring dealers getting almost 3 times as much as Caldera dealers for practically the same product? Is this the Hotspring premium everyone talks about?
Thanks,
Chris
Please take last paragraph jokingly.
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I sell the sub panel at my cost, most dealers mark them up the same as other merchandise.
I am usually selling the sub panel to facilitate a sale, or a move of a spa I formerly sold etc.
The new tubs come with them.
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I sell the sub panel at my cost, most dealers mark them up the same as other merchandise.
I am usually selling the sub panel to facilitate a sale, or a move of a spa I formerly sold etc.
The new tubs come with them.
Is the sub-panel any different though?
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Nope - although there is a part number for a Caldera sub panel which contains only one breaker: a 50 amp, two-pole, GFCI type breaker. This was used on older Caldera and certain of the current "HotSpot" tubs. Be sure you don't get this one if you need the 20/30 split unit.
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O.K. my husband is going to the dealer today. He knows about the wiring he's been walking around showing everyone the schematic, :D they say they've never seen anything like it.
The lady I spoke with at the dealership, I told her about the split, when I asked. She did say we would not find it anywhere. She also asked for the model, year and serial number, so I (hate to) but would assume that it is the 20/30. It may also help that the previous owners bought the spa from this particular dealer, maybe.
I did tell her about the HS dealer with the $400 price, she said, he may have thought installed I said nope, my thoughts are and it didn't make a whole lot of sense is that I bought the spa used, it is a Caldera not a HS, I spent no money at his place so he would get it another way. Unfortunitely he would have been a good place or me to buy supplies as he is closer than the Caldera dealer, but now he may as well be in china I am not going there, ducks or no ducks ;D
whatever he may have thought, he was very rude to me and I am not a super sensitive person.
I do thank all of you for your responses. Jo
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Chas,
When did they change from a straight 50 to a split?
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When they went to the 'Advent' control box in 2001.
Blue cover? Split sub panel.