Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Dave_L on October 07, 2004, 07:03:17 pm
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How does air injection work on a Jacuzzi hot tub?
I see some manufacturers offer an air blower. When I look in the control panel/pump bay on my tub, I don't see anything of the sort.
Does it work on a vacuum principle? Water flows through a venturi causing a vacuum which then pulls air into the water stream?
Thanks,
Dave
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You might be descrbing 2 different things.
Our spa (Optima) has an air blower, and dozens of little jets that do nothing but funnel this blown air into the spa water. Strictly just forced air. Not all spas I looked at offered blowers.
Thing 2 is your venturi reference, where a valve(s) introduces air into the jets that the water is pumped thru. Our spa has several of these valves, which control different jet groups.
Brewman
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Just to add, not all air blowers just add bubbles through separate air jets. Some blowers simply add forced air through the same channels as the venturi and increase the air mixture to the jets (ie. Coleman). Some do both (ie. Beachcomber)
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Hello Dave L,
Jacuzzi draws warm air through slots located in the motor cavity to the air controls. When the air control is activated, the warm air is injected into the jets water line. Without getting to technical, Jacuzzi (and only Jacuzzi) has a patented process that injects air from more locations and the result of this engineering is a high-volume, low pressure massage that is both effective and enjoyable.
What model are you considering and what other manufacturers have you checked out?
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Jordy, All,
We actually already have a Jacuzzi, a J-365. Have had it approx 6 weeks and totally enjoy it. For us and our guests the foot dome makes the massage aspect of the tub.
My question on air injection basically relates to wanting to know how things work.
From time to time, you will probably see me raise these types of questions.
Thanks for the responses.
Dave
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Without getting to technical, Jacuzzi (and only Jacuzzi) has a patented process that injects air from more locations and the result of this engineering is a high-volume, low pressure massage that is both effective and enjoyable.
That sounds like it came straight from a brochure. ;)
On our tub (Optima), we have a blower that injects colder air into the tub through the air jets. The air that is added to the jet stream likely comes from a warmer part of the cabinet as I can't tell any temperature difference when it's on. That air only appears to change the massage and intensity of the water jets.
Any spa with the extra control on the panel (like ours) uses a dedicated air blower and has air jets. (although I'm sure there are spas with the contol on the panel with no blower as they are using a 3rd party generic control system) From what I've read, there is some theraputic benifit to having the 'cold' air when you're in the 'hot' water. This is one of the bigger reasons we chose the spa we did, as this feature isn't available on many of the spas out there.
Some manufacturers will tell you that they 'used to have it' but took out as it brought down the temp of the water. In our case, I'm not worried about the temp of the water (that's what we have a heater for). We wanted to have the air jets and enjoy that hot/cold sensation when the jets are on.
In addition, spas with air blowers typically offer aromatherapy. Some will tell you it works well and some will tell you it doesn't work at all. We've only tried a couple of scents with our Optima. Personally, I'd rather use the air blowers and scented inserts instead of putting scented oil into the spa.
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Actually, the Sundance draws air from the "heated motor cavity" also for water jets. The air blower for the dedicated air jets is also in the same area (though it is a vented cavity).
I agree, the air blower adds another dimension to the spa. Where JacuzziPremium has the waterfall, Sundance has the air blower. I also have never put any scented crysals or liquids into my water.
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We have the Optima, which has the air blowers to inject just air alone throughout the spa. Regarding the other air feature, however, the venturi air which you can cause to come through the jets with the water for a differnent and more forceful massage, there is, I believe a significant difference between the Jacuzzi and Optima. With the Optima you can add air to the jets gradually, but I think the Jacuzzi only lets you turn it all the way on or all the way off. . . others can comment if this is not correct. And finally, Optima has a whirlpool function to which you can also add air mixture - the Jacuzzi we wet tested did not have this function and it was something we really wanted and use. Jacuzzi dealer, in response to my inquiry about whirlpool function told me people no longer wanted that feature, but because I recalled we used it a lot in our last tub, we took Jacuzzi out of consideration. . . Hope I am right about my facts. . .
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Sounds about right to me. We also like the whirlpool feature of the Optima.
Brewman
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How could he have been had? He said he bought a Sundance, not a Cavein.
Brewman
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Your posts might have more credibility if you actually owned a H@@@n spa. Nah, no they wouldn't.
Brewman
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DNFTT
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How could he have been had? He said he bought a Sundance, not a Cavein.
Brewman
Thank you Brewman. I am VERY HAPPY with our Sundance and don't feel anywhere close to being had.
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Injection is nice but I'd rather be blown! ;D
I think it's about time that the moderator steps in and does something about this guy. There are people here asking serious questions and expect dignified responses. I think Mr. Happy's responses have now crossed the line.
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Why would anyone admit, publicly, that they owned a Haven ?
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You don't own a super crappy fallsapart, you own a Hercules.
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The band of gypsies has no real care for others,other than their care of selling a product to the brainwashed masses.
Conjunas own life history explains his values,and his lack of professionalism and BROTHERHOOD amongst his own.
My spa has super duper ultra high velocity air,duz yers?
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Could the administrater of this forum please do something to quell this unproductive, ininformative, unhelpful B.S. from continuing?
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Let's keep score here my friend.
Optima - Strong ozone odor - minus 1 point
Optima - Blows cold air on you - minus 1 point
Haven - No ozone odor - plus 1 point
Haven - Utilizes warmth from motors inside temperaure controlled cabinet for warming spa water and air used by blower - plus 2 points
Haven - turbo air gives stronger massage - plus 1 point
The game has only begun and we find the challenger Sundance Optima down significantly!
Haven - Annoyingly pitched and sold by a low rent unprofessional outfit out of the back of a truck in Colorado - minus 200 points!
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Have you felt the power of Jacuzzi air injection vs. properly engineered turbo air? To me if you like a party spa where people get together in a spa for company is one thing, but if you are looking for true high performance hydrotherapy spa, strong motors, clean plumbing, turbo air and large rotary jets will give you a massage almost as good as a physical therapist just by hitting a button and turning on the pumps and jets to high.
OK... I've had a change of heart.. You've convinced me. The entire spa industry and their collective group of stinking over-educated college boy engineers are full of it. The purposely design inferior brain dead designs just for kicks and know nothing about how a spa is supposed to work.
However, I have a savior...because there is one lone super-genius in Colorado that knows it all and can lead me to the promised land. Unpatented for protection from theft, his superior design and quality processes will allow me to thwart the entire bogus spa industry and own "THE BEST SPA" on the planet!!
OK, so where's my closest dealer? I want to go down and see one today!!!
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How does air injection work on a Jacuzzi hot tub?
I see some manufacturers offer an air blower. When I look in the control panel/pump bay on my tub, I don't see anything of the sort.
Does it work on a vacuum principle? Water flows through a venturi causing a vacuum which then pulls air into the water stream?
Thanks,
Dave
Dave,
Bulmer, Tony and Zacman gave you pretty much a descriptive of how the Air injection system works. Air is drawn in through the jets system when activated which adds power. It does work on a vacuum principle. As water is pushed through the jets, air is drawn into the water stream. The effect is power and a stronger (deeper) effect in therapy.