Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: TubbinLuvin on May 02, 2018, 11:01:52 am
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So many dif brands
Then I figured out I wanted to JetsetterNXT but my local dealer
Quoted it at 9000.00 even before tax
Why in the world is a 3 person jacuzzi that much
You can even get the Hot Springs Envoy NXT for 12000.00
You would think 3 less seats and not as big of a manufacturing cost
That the Jetsetter NXT would be no more than 7000.00
Absolutely gutted as I hung up the phone 10 minutes ago
9000 before tax
They have the regular jetsetter for 7300.00
I know ppl are going to say if you want quality you got to pay for it
But the 9000 for 3 person tub makes no sense at all
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So many dif brands
Then I figured out I wanted to JetsetterNXT but my local dealer
Quoted it at 9000.00 even before tax
Why in the world is a 3 person jacuzzi that much
You can even get the Hot Springs Envoy NXT for 12000.00
You would think 3 less seats and not as big of a manufacturing cost
That the Jetsetter NXT would be no more than 7000.00
Absolutely gutted as I hung up the phone 10 minutes ago
9000 before tax
They have the regular jetsetter for 7300.00
I know ppl are going to say if you want quality you got to pay for it
But the 9000 for 3 person tub makes no sense at all
Just because he asked for $9k doesn't mean you have to pay that. Make him an offer and tell him its the highest you'll go or you'll walk and walk if he doesn't match or at least reasonably counter. Don't lose your mind over this stuff, be patient, firm and polite when shopping and know that sometimes you won't come to an agreement and if that happens you just move on.
BTW, I'm not sure I'd agree that because the larger spa is $12k that the smaller should be $7k, that's a huge difference and its not as easy as saying one is XX% smaller.
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Thanks man
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Unfortunately, size and price don't really go together and never have in this industry. Yes, there is less material cost of a Jetsetter NXT, but the labor to manufacturer is probably very similar and so is the amount of money budgeted by the manufacturer for warranty. $12,000 for an Envoy NXT is low, should be at least $1,000 higher. $9,000 for a Jetsetter NXT is a pretty good price, I am at $9,500. It was the same deal when I sold Marquis. An Epic would be around $12,500 and a Spirit was around $8,500. Premium products can command a premium price. You can always offer less than $9,000 but if you are expecting $7,000, your dealer may not even counter because what you want is so far off from what the product sells for.
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With the NXT you are paying a lot for pretty and probably some bells and whistles. Go with the std jetsetter, be happy and save 2 grand.
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Remember though the Jetsetter NXT is different than the Highlife Jetsetter. It’s deeper, 220V only, larger pump, more jets, TRI-X filters, polymer frame and wireless touchscreen control panel.
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A ferrari coupe cost more than a Kia Sorrento... is that logical? I can fit more people in the Kia, and gas cost less.
To the OP, size isn't always the main factor in pricing ;)
If you are losing your mind over this... you need a hot tub ASAP. Go get one! ;D
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Save your money and go to Costco to buy your spa.
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Save your money and go to Costco to buy your spa.
As an FYI, the maker of Hot Spring Spas also sells spas on/at Costco.
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Save your money and go to Costco to buy your spa.
As an FYI, the maker of Hot Spring Spas also sells spas on/at Costco.
And the only similarity is that Watkins is the parent company.
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They Aquaterra line from Costco is identical to Freeflow and Fantasy spas made by Watkins.
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They Aquaterra line from Costco is identical to Freeflow and Fantasy spas made by Watkins.
Looks like the least expensive Aquaterra's that are roto molded might be the same as a Freeflow or Fantasy (have never seen one in person so cannot confirm). However, a Freeflow or Fantasy are not the same as a Hot Spring or Caldera.
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Understood. I was considering one but one horsepower motor with all those jets would be weak, to say the least.
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Checking in to report I’m still losing my mind
That is all
P.S , if quoted 8999 for Jetsetter NXT
Think I can walk in (cash in hand ) and walk out the door
For it at 8000 ?
I hear you can get taxes you paid on it back if a doctor suggests it ?
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It depends on your dealer. Money talks and if you are ready to buy, you are going to get your dealers lowest offer. If they are willing to let you walk, then you know that is as good as it gets.
Me personally, I would decline. Within reason I can make the decision on less than optimal offers and only have to go to my boss for approval when the offer is really low. Your number is really low, to the point where I don't know if I would even ask my boss.
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Checking in to report I’m still losing my mind
That is all
P.S , if quoted 8999 for Jetsetter NXT
Think I can walk in (cash in hand ) and walk out the door
For it at 8000 ?
I hear you can get taxes you paid on it back if a doctor suggests it ?
As an FYI - HotSpring recommends their dealers sell the Jetsetter NXT for $8,899 with cover, delivery, and chemicals. If you are getting a set of steps, coverlift, etc with that price the price is in line. Certainly a fair deal. The regular Jetsetter is recommended at $7,399. The NXT isn't designed to be priced low.
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Checking in to report I’m still losing my mind
That is all
P.S , if quoted 8999 for Jetsetter NXT
Think I can walk in (cash in hand ) and walk out the door
For it at 8000 ?
I hear you can get taxes you paid on it back if a doctor suggests it ?
As an FYI - HotSpring recommends their dealers sell the Jetsetter NXT for $8,899 with cover, delivery, and chemicals. If you are getting a set of steps, coverlift, etc with that price the price is in line. Certainly a fair deal. The regular Jetsetter is recommended at $7,399. The NXT isn't designed to be priced low.
Chris_H, serious question here, are you a Hot Spring dealer? Reason I ask is that I have been with Hot Spring for almost a year now and have never been told a suggested selling price of a hot tub.
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Checking in to report I’m still losing my mind
That is all
P.S , if quoted 8999 for Jetsetter NXT
Think I can walk in (cash in hand ) and walk out the door
For it at 8000 ?
I hear you can get taxes you paid on it back if a doctor suggests it ?
As an FYI - HotSpring recommends their dealers sell the Jetsetter NXT for $8,899 with cover, delivery, and chemicals. If you are getting a set of steps, coverlift, etc with that price the price is in line. Certainly a fair deal. The regular Jetsetter is recommended at $7,399. The NXT isn't designed to be priced low.
Chris_H, serious question here, are you a Hot Spring dealer? Reason I ask is that I have been with Hot Spring for almost a year now and have never been told a suggested selling price of a hot tub.
they won't give one...I've been through every one of their sales training classes...Sales 1, Sales 2, Top Gun, Star, etc. and not once have I heard them give a "recommended price" they would always stop and say "at dealers discretion" or give a wide range which is how they are supposed to do it.
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You guys are savages
8500 then
They can do 8500...... my lord
What world am I stepping into
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Plus they don’t allow wet tests anymore ....
Damnt I want a deal , I’m not being irrational
Just ticked the jacuzzi market is such a mental chess match
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It is called price optimization and yes it is at dealers discretion.
However, if you are fluctuating too high from the optimized price you really won't sell any spas.
I stand by my original comment of the 'optimized price.' Anywhere within +-$500 of that is fair, IMO.
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Plus they don’t allow wet tests anymore ....
Damnt I want a deal , I’m not being irrational
Just ticked the jacuzzi market is such a mental chess match
And to really throw a monkey in your wrench, it's not a "Jacuzzi" or "Jacuzzi market". Jacuzzi is a brand name. It's a HotSpring spa. ;)
Have you looked at any other brands? There are several out there that are every bit just as good. Least it would give you a different price option/comparison.
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If they offer me 8999 , they should take 8500 cash
A sale is better than no sale
They got to be making close to 2 grand off me
Yes I’ve considered Aspen Spas (but they are not local)
And Bullfrog as well
(but the price for a tub similar to the Jetsetter NXT was around the same price)
I swear , a market full of savages
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They technically don't have to budge off the $8,999. Every dealer has different overhead cost and cost of doing business. I do agree that a sale is better than no sale, but there does come a point where the profit is too low to make it worth their while. Be polite and be prepared to buy on the spot if they accept your offer. I absolutely hate it when a customer beats me up on pricing and is not ready or willing to commit.
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If they offer me 8999 , they should take 8500 cash
A sale is better than no sale
They got to be making close to 2 grand off me
Yes I’ve considered Aspen Spas (but they are not local)
And Bullfrog as well
(but the price for a tub similar to the Jetsetter NXT was around the same price)
I swear , a market full of savages
A market full of savages or a market full of people that have employees, rent, insurance, and many other expenses to pay? Say they are making 2 grand that goes quick. I have no idea how much that tub should sell for but I sell a more expensive 3 person tub then that. If you want to be close to 7k why not just get the non NXT version? Have you offered $8500 yet?
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Not yet , just trying to get a feel from you all
On how much leverage really exists
Might I ask this as well , how much is a good price for the Bullfrog A7L
https://spadesign.bullfrogspas.com/Content/Images/Spas/A7L/3point/Slate-Titanium.png(http://)
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Not yet , just trying to get a feel from you all
On how much leverage really exists
Might I ask this as well , how much is a good price for the Bullfrog A7L
https://spadesign.bullfrogspas.com/Content/Images/Spas/A7L/3point/Slate-Titanium.png(http://)
Envoy NXT - Envoy price range.
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Not yet , just trying to get a feel from you all
On how much leverage really exists
Might I ask this as well , how much is a good price for the Bullfrog A7L
https://spadesign.bullfrogspas.com/Content/Images/Spas/A7L/3point/Slate-Titanium.png(http://)
Around 11,500.00 least that's where we are.
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If they offer me 8999 , they should take 8500 cash
A sale is better than no sale
They got to be making close to 2 grand off me
Yes I’ve considered Aspen Spas (but they are not local)
And Bullfrog as well
(but the price for a tub similar to the Jetsetter NXT was around the same price)
I swear , a market full of savages
If I was $8999 firm I'd certainly knock off something for cash, maybe not the 6% you're countering with but I think this is a good approach and why not ask for more than they might be willing to give because it might start a counter. Not all dealers react the same way/degree when you mention cash but its certainly better for them and a good negotiating tool.
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Literally?
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Well went to the local dealer of Jetsetter Hot Springs NXT
Didn’t have any floor models
Asked price for NXT JetSetter
Acted surprised even though I knew what she would quote
She said 8,999.00, I said how much if I pay in cash
To my surprise she said 8,050.00
Comes with free shipping , chemicals, cover , and electrical components
Fellas ?
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Please just buy it now. It's a great tub and you got the better price than you wanted. If you're still losing your mind it's your own fault...lol!
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Great Spa! Very low price! I never come remotely that close ;)
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Lol thanks you all
Sorry for being annoying
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I can’t get the spa until November though
If she quoted me that price she gotta live up to it I assume
She’s the main lady there
Only last thing I’m worried about is being 6 feet 1
I’m hoping I can fit comfortable in the lounger inside the Jetsetter NXT
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Not sure if the exact interactions between you and your dealer but just a courtesy FYI. You should have figured out if the Jetsetter NXT fit you prior to negotiating and probably should have let your dealer know your not buying for 6 months. If it were me, I would be polite as I can be but I’m also super irritated that a customer is beating me up on price and they are not ready to buy and may not even fit in the hot tub.
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Just because you cannot take delivery until November does not mean you cannot make the deal. Not sure what you are looking for. She dropped almost $1000. More than you expected. Give her a deposit. Lock the deal. Don't be a savage.
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Really good advice, and a deposit would absolutely be required.
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Ok , they didn’t have a Jetsetter I could sit in there though
I barely fit in the lounger of the 6 person NXT tub