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Title: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on November 07, 2017, 05:27:48 pm
ok so been looking for first tub and saw hot springs envoy, and jacuzzi.  Got price on a floor model J575 that never had water in it with speakers for $15,500.  The warranty starts when i receive it.  was wondering if it is a good buy or should i keep looking for something else?  I have not seen bullfrog a8 yet or D1 spas.  i sat in a jacuzzi and it felt good just not the 500 series.  i am pretty sure i want a lounger.  i like to lay down.  How does jacuzzi compare to the others?
thanks
chris
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on November 07, 2017, 10:21:04 pm
 Jacuzzi top notch, depends on what you want?  The 500 series is a pretty spa, in which you are paying for.  Jacuzzi wise look at the 3 or 400 series.  Bullfrog A or R series and likewise with the HS brand as they have different series as well.  Many other brands also depending on what's around you?    Marquis and Artesian are great also.  Find what you like, find a good dealer, try and filter out the big time ours is the best of any brand!
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on November 08, 2017, 12:17:44 am
thank you for the reply.  there is a marquis dealer right by me also so looking tomorrow.  i saw the 3 and 4 series but like the 500 series with the lights and audio.  i think i will see the bullfrog friday.  so hard to choose
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Post by: Tman122 on November 08, 2017, 05:32:46 pm
thank you for the reply.  there is a marquis dealer right by me also so looking tomorrow.  i saw the 3 and 4 series but like the 500 series with the lights and audio.  i think i will see the bullfrog friday.  so hard to choose

Keep in mind that the lights and audio are the first to go bad.
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on November 08, 2017, 07:20:20 pm
funny you say that, went and saw a marquis epic and the guy said the same thing.  i sat in the epic and it was nice.  thinking about getting the show.  i am going to look at bullfrog tomorrow and then a Dimension dealer friday maybe. to hard to decide.
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Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on November 08, 2017, 09:18:00 pm

   Plus another on the audio!   Don't waste the money..
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on November 08, 2017, 09:37:54 pm
figured i would get a bose speaker for now till i get the outside tv and speakers done.
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Post by: Thisismyname on November 08, 2017, 10:06:54 pm
Definitely don't waste money on Bose.  Lots of great speakers that sound better and cost less. 

figured i would get a bose speaker for now till i get the outside tv and speakers done.
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: MarKee on November 09, 2017, 01:04:06 am
Marquis Epic and Show are great spas. As far as therapy and jet power, the Show is very hard to beat.  I've never sat in a spa with that powerful of jets before. We don't display the Show in the showroom I work mainly because once people feel the jets in that spa, they want that feeling in another spa, or a smaller tub, and it throws off our sales. The 3 MP160 jet pumps are hard to beat.  The Epic is the next best as far as therapy in the Marquis line. Good luck in your search!
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on November 09, 2017, 10:22:28 am
Yes the dealer by me didn't have a show in the showroom so didn't get a chance to see it, but the had an epic and i sat in it.  Today im going to see dimension spas today and bullfrog tomorrow but so far it is the show for me.
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Post by: Spatech_tuo on November 09, 2017, 11:00:30 am
Yes the dealer by me didn't have a show in the showroom so didn't get a chance to see it, but the had an epic and i sat in it.  Today im going to see dimension spas today and bullfrog tomorrow but so far it is the show for me.

Visit most/all of the local dealers and wet test your top couple choices. Keep an open mind because so many times you'll see people say that they were convinced spa A was right for them until they went through the entire process and wet tested only to find that the wet test convinced them otherwise. Take your time and if/when you do wet test multiple brands try to do so on the same day or at least same weekend.
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on November 09, 2017, 05:26:51 pm
now more confused then ever.  saw D1 amore bay and liked it.  but i think salesman had me going with a good pitch, about the water filters, all zones on and so on. my only problem is the shape.  was planing on building a 18" high deck around tub but it would definitely put deck building skills to test with that shape.  not opposed to just having it sit on deck also, easier for maintenance too.  He mentioned D1 is coming out with a new spa that is square in a couple of months.  i didn't get to wet test that one but sat in a chairman and liked it. about $13,500 installed with step and cover with lifter, brand new not floor model.  I am going to see bullfrog tomorrow and look at A series.  This is hard to choose
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Post by: Thisismyname on November 09, 2017, 05:36:28 pm
If you get sucked in by a sales pitch you'll buy every tub.  They all are the best at everything according to the sales guys.

Just test out the ones in your size and price range and you'll figure it out.
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Post by: Sam on November 09, 2017, 05:57:35 pm
The Amore Bay is a pretty sweet spa.  We had a high percentage of warranty calls with them in the brief time that I sold them and getting parts was a pain in the butt and took forever.  I think they've gone down hill a little service wise since they were bought out by Jacuzzi.  That's a darn good price you got on it though.  Beware that if you build a spa into a deck and get a leaky waterfall or something on the non-equipment compartment side, it's going to be a nightmare to fix.  I usually recommend leaving one side completely open so the spa can be slid out if that happens.  That's one of the advantages to Bullfrog's design when putting a spa in the ground or a deck, in my opinion.

Good luck.
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on November 09, 2017, 06:34:12 pm
it is extremely hard to decide.  sometimes i wish i only like 2 dealers near me so i don't have much of a choice. I didn't know d1 was owned by jacuzzi. When i look at bullfrog i should know more what my plans are.  Wish i could see what the new spa from dimension is going to be like.  i might wait.
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: Hottubguy on November 09, 2017, 08:43:14 pm
If you get sucked in by a sales pitch you'll buy every tub.  They all are the best at everything according to the sales guys.

Just test out the ones in your size and price range and you'll figure it out.

Haha so very true. When you are looking at the Spas you are considering I don’t think you can go wrong here. Pick out the one that fits you best and go from there. Only one of your options I haven’t seen in person is the J-585. All of these tubs have something that they do better then all the others. What it comes down to is which one is right for you
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on November 09, 2017, 09:29:12 pm
how good is the micro silk on marquis?  my daughter has slight eczema and wondering if it would help.  Funny how true it is about the sales man.  man they are good.  all the dealers i have been to though have been around for 30+ years so can't go wrong there at least. might have to flip a couple of coins here.  the dealer for d1 talked me out of the serena bay tub.  he said that he doesn't sell many of them compared to lots of amore.  he had no problem selling me one but liked the amore better.
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: Sam on November 10, 2017, 02:27:34 pm
A couple of companies sell micro-silk.  I'm not sold on it.  Fyi, you can't use it and the jets at the same time, which I've heard a couple people who got mention that they wish they had known that at the time of purchase.  I've also heard that it puts a huge strain on your filtration system because those billions of micro-bubbles pull nasty gunk out of your pores.

The Amore Bay really is an awesome hot tub and that price is pretty darn good.  If you're tired of the whole shopping process, you certainly aren't making a bad decision going that route.

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Post by: MarKee on November 10, 2017, 03:03:20 pm
I haven't seen a MicroSilk pump fail, but I was a little concerned with the 1 year warranty when we first started selling them.  I believe for the 2018 models, all Marquis MicroSilk pumps will be coming with an extended warranty of 3 years (ask your dealer or it may take a phone call to Marquis to verify this).

Still to this day I haven't heard a customer complain about MicroSilk, and we've sold a lot of spas with that option.  Most people that buy it seem to love it.

MicroSilk is available on the Epic and Euphoria models, but not the Show.

Meriflower on this forum was originally a Bullfrog owner and just bought a Marquis Spirit because of the MicroSilk option and the same skin conditions you're talking about.  I would send him a private message and get his feedback.
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Post by: castletonia on November 10, 2017, 03:16:10 pm
When I sold Marquis, I had good luck with Microsilk.  I did have one pump failure in 3 years out of maybe 15-20 spas total ( I didn't sell a lot with).  As Sam stated, you cannot use the Microsilk pump when the other jets are on.  I never had any filtration issues so to speak so cannot comment on that.  Prior to Marquis, I sold Sunrise and probably had 5-7 more spas with Microsilk with no known issues.  I liked the product and if I still sold Marquis, I would likely get it on a hot tub if I were in the market.
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on November 10, 2017, 04:42:43 pm
Just sat in a bullfrog and it felt good. I need to seriously stop shopping. Another good salesman talking about how the others I mentioned will have more problems then the bullfrog.  Got a decent price on an A8L order without audio $12,500 with cover and stairs. Worried about a more bay giving me problems. I will pm him and see if he liked the bullfrog or Marquis thanks
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: Thisismyname on November 10, 2017, 04:54:31 pm
Just sat in a bullfrog and it felt good. I need to seriously stop shopping. Another good salesman talking about how the others I mentioned will have more problems then the bullfrog.  Got a decent price on an A8L order without audio $12,500 with cover and stairs. Worried about a more bay giving me problems. I will pm him and see if he liked the bullfrog or Marquis thanks

What area are you in?  I just got my Bullfrog A8 a few weeks ago
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: Hottubguy on November 10, 2017, 05:45:38 pm
how good is the micro silk on marquis?  my daughter has slight eczema and wondering if it would help.  Funny how true it is about the sales man.  man they are good.  all the dealers i have been to though have been around for 30+ years so can't go wrong there at least. might have to flip a couple of coins here.  the dealer for d1 talked me out of the serena bay tub.  he said that he doesn't sell many of them compared to lots of amore.  he had no problem selling me one but liked the amore better.

I have Microsilk on my personal tub, a Marquis Resort.  No complaints.  I enjoy it thoroughly.  I've sold a decent amount with that option and never had a complaint.  It's pretty obvious if you know how microsilk works why you can't run the pumps and the microsilk feature at the same time.  If you would like to see a video of microsilk in action and what it does and then how long it takes for your water to clearup PM your cell phone number and I will video it while I'm sitting in mine tonight
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: Hottubguy on November 10, 2017, 05:46:43 pm
A couple of companies sell micro-silk.  I'm not sold on it.  Fyi, you can't use it and the jets at the same time, which I've heard a couple people who got mention that they wish they had known that at the time of purchase.  I've also heard that it puts a huge strain on your filtration system because those billions of micro-bubbles pull nasty gunk out of your pores.

The Amore Bay really is an awesome hot tub and that price is pretty darn good.  If you're tired of the whole shopping process, you certainly aren't making a bad decision going that route.

It doesn't put a huge strain on your filter system.  Have you seen one in action before?
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: Tman122 on November 10, 2017, 06:17:10 pm
Just sat in a bullfrog and it felt good. I need to seriously stop shopping. Another good salesman talking about how the others I mentioned will have more problems then the bullfrog.  Got a decent price on an A8L order without audio $12,500 with cover and stairs. Worried about a more bay giving me problems. I will pm him and see if he liked the bullfrog or Marquis thanks

Yea just like what was mentioned before. If you believed all the sales pitch BS you'd have to buy 3-4 tubs. And you won't have to buy sliced bread anymore. The tub will do it.
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: Hottubguy on November 10, 2017, 06:39:32 pm
Just sat in a bullfrog and it felt good. I need to seriously stop shopping. Another good salesman talking about how the others I mentioned will have more problems then the bullfrog.  Got a decent price on an A8L order without audio $12,500 with cover and stairs. Worried about a more bay giving me problems. I will pm him and see if he liked the bullfrog or Marquis thanks

Yea just like what was mentioned before. If you believed all the sales pitch BS you'd have to buy 3-4 tubs.

Truth of the matter is all tubs might have a problem at some point. You are looking at all high end tubs. A couple on your list are personal favorites and a couple I think are overrated. Others will disagree. Buy from a reputable dealer and pick the one that suits you best
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on November 10, 2017, 08:58:23 pm
Just sat in a bullfrog and it felt good. I need to seriously stop shopping. Another good salesman talking about how the others I mentioned will have more problems then the bullfrog.  Got a decent price on an A8L order without audio $12,500 with cover and stairs. Worried about a more bay giving me problems. I will pm him and see if he liked the bullfrog or Marquis thanks

What area are you in?  I just got my Bullfrog A8 a few weeks ago

Im in san Francisco area.  I think i might look at d1 amore bay next week one more time and maybe go with that.  the A8 jets hit me better then marquis but i might have to wet test the marquis again to make sure.
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on November 12, 2017, 07:12:07 pm
ok so saw the d1 amore bay.  I think i am going to pull the trigger on that one this week.  i have to have an electrician come by and see if i have enough room in panel for another 50 amp breaker.  Hopefully not making the wrong decision but like the jets and ability to turn every jet on off or controlled power of each one.  going to order a brand new one.

thanks for all the help
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: Hottubguy on November 12, 2017, 07:21:46 pm
ok so saw the d1 amore bay.  I think i am going to pull the trigger on that one this week.  i have to have an electrician come by and see if i have enough room in panel for another 50 amp breaker.  Hopefully not making the wrong decision but like the jets and ability to turn every jet on off or controlled power of each one.  going to order a brand new one.

thanks for all the help

Good choice. Cool looking tub
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Post by: meriflower on November 13, 2017, 03:21:54 am
Sounds like you have decided on the D1 - congrats!  As for MicroSilk it has helped me with my eczema which I’m extremely happy about!  I have not had any difficulty with filtration and maintaining my water because of it. 
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Post by: hjscm on November 13, 2017, 04:55:32 pm
Thank you for replying to me.  I have not wet tested the d1 amore baby yet going to another dealer about 1 hour away who has one in the showroom filled with water.  Then after that going to sit back in the marquis epic with micro silk.
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Post by: NYJets on December 10, 2017, 06:31:58 pm
Just sat in a bullfrog and it felt good. I need to seriously stop shopping. Another good salesman talking about how the others I mentioned will have more problems then the bullfrog.  Got a decent price on an A8L order without audio $12,500 with cover and stairs. Worried about a more bay giving me problems. I will pm him and see if he liked the bullfrog or Marquis thanks

I'm in the Bay Area too. Curious what dealer did you go to concerning BullFrog A8L from? TXS
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Post by: Sam on December 21, 2017, 01:47:57 pm
A couple of companies sell micro-silk.  I'm not sold on it.  Fyi, you can't use it and the jets at the same time, which I've heard a couple people who got mention that they wish they had known that at the time of purchase.  I've also heard that it puts a huge strain on your filtration system because those billions of micro-bubbles pull nasty gunk out of your pores.

The Amore Bay really is an awesome hot tub and that price is pretty darn good.  If you're tired of the whole shopping process, you certainly aren't making a bad decision going that route.

It doesn't put a huge strain on your filter system.  Have you seen one in action before?

I've seen it a couple of times, though the filtration problems are only what I was told by another dealer.  It was a Clearwater dealer and they don't have the best filtration system to begin with.  I have not seen that first hand though.  Good to know that nobody on here is seeing that.  I'll refrain from repeating that in the future. 
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Post by: Hottubguy on December 21, 2017, 03:13:52 pm
A couple of companies sell micro-silk.  I'm not sold on it.  Fyi, you can't use it and the jets at the same time, which I've heard a couple people who got mention that they wish they had known that at the time of purchase.  I've also heard that it puts a huge strain on your filtration system because those billions of micro-bubbles pull nasty gunk out of your pores.

The Amore Bay really is an awesome hot tub and that price is pretty darn good.  If you're tired of the whole shopping process, you certainly aren't making a bad decision going that route.

It doesn't put a huge strain on your filter system.  Have you seen one in action before?

I've seen it a couple of times, though the filtration problems are only what I was told by another dealer.  It was a Clearwater dealer and they don't have the best filtration system to begin with.  I have not seen that first hand though.  Good to know that nobody on here is seeing that.  I'll refrain from repeating that in the future.

As a former Clearwater dealer they haven't done much right in these few years
Title: Re: How is jacuzzi J585?
Post by: hjscm on December 21, 2017, 04:34:38 pm
it was in Palo Alto. I finally bought an Amore Bay but with the fires in California it isn't here yet. hopefully in 2 weeks

Just sat in a bullfrog and it felt good. I need to seriously stop shopping. Another good salesman talking about how the others I mentioned will have more problems then the bullfrog.  Got a decent price on an A8L order without audio $12,500 with cover and stairs. Worried about a more bay giving me problems. I will pm him and see if he liked the bullfrog or Marquis thanks

I'm in the Bay Area too. Curious what dealer did you go to concerning BullFrog A8L from? TXS
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Post by: Sam on December 23, 2017, 01:18:56 pm
A couple of companies sell micro-silk.  I'm not sold on it.  Fyi, you can't use it and the jets at the same time, which I've heard a couple people who got mention that they wish they had known that at the time of purchase.  I've also heard that it puts a huge strain on your filtration system because those billions of micro-bubbles pull nasty gunk out of your pores.

The Amore Bay really is an awesome hot tub and that price is pretty darn good.  If you're tired of the whole shopping process, you certainly aren't making a bad decision going that route.

It doesn't put a huge strain on your filter system.  Have you seen one in action before?

I've seen it a couple of times, though the filtration problems are only what I was told by another dealer.  It was a Clearwater dealer and they don't have the best filtration system to begin with.  I have not seen that first hand though.  Good to know that nobody on here is seeing that.  I'll refrain from repeating that in the future.

As a former Clearwater dealer they haven't done much right in these few years

Yeah, they tanked hard in the last 5 years.  I hear that they cleaned house and are on the up and up.