Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: wt21 on September 18, 2015, 04:58:34 pm
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We are looking for a spa mainly for kids, and a little for us to relax in. Big issue is that we've never had one before, and I'm a little scared of having a $10K regret purchase.
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Local dealer has 2 ten year old spas -- 2005 sundance marin ($3700) and 2006 sundance majesta ($4000)
They said they took these on trade in, replaced the items likely to fail, cleaned them out, etc. 60 day warranty. This is a long-standing reputable dealer with their own service dept who rates highly on Angie's list.
What do folks thinking of buying these spas in particular. I was going to get a $9K Chelsee, but once I got the site prep price in ($3K), I'm over my budget of $10K. I think I'd like a tub larger than the Marin, but as this is our first spa, maybe we should just go cheap, and if it's proven to work for us, we can upgrade??
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You actually can get a decent new spa at $7k as long as you are ok with skipping some of the bells and whistles. Having said that, buying used can be a good option sometimes and in this case you get a bit of insurance but I can almost guarantee those prices are negotiable so I'd offer $1k less and wait for their counter. I might also ask them to bump that up to 90 days.
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Going cheap and upgrading later is a much more expensive proposition than the $300 difference in price on those two. With your quoted $3K in prep price, you're +/- $300 on $6700 vs $7000 spent. That's nothing.... get the tub you prefer and enjoy it from the start :)
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You can buy a new tub for $4500. Warranty and new components. No frills, but it's really just a big tub full of water, a pump and a heater.
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What make/model for $4,500?
That's a wonderful price for me, but I would want some semblance of quality??
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What make/model for $4,500?
That's a wonderful price for me, but I would want some semblance of quality??
Look at Nordic Hot Tubs. They have many tubs in the that price point. They are a well made, no frills type of tub with great factory support and a good warramty
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Thanks. There's a dealer not too far away. I'm guessing no circ pump, though? Not sure about ozone.
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Thanks. There's a dealer not too far away. I'm guessing no circ pump, though? Not sure about ozone.
Neither are necessary. People had tubs for decades without them and managed to survive. Nordic and others make some nice, no-nonsense tubs without all the marketing department frills. You'll enjoy these tubs just as much as a $12K tub with a laser light show and ozonically treated water. :)
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What make/model for $4,500?
That's a wonderful price for me, but I would want some semblance of quality??
You simply need to do a little research. Hotsprings makes the Hot Spot line, Nordic has tubs, you can get a Bullfrog for low 5s, lots of others out there. Plenty of quality. I'm not referring to the Costco tubs here.
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Thanks. There's a dealer not too far away. I'm guessing no circ pump, though? Not sure about ozone.
No circ pump but ozone is available. Circ pumps aren't needed. The main line I carry, marquis hasn't used them for years and I never have a issue keeping any of them clean and clear. They are also very quiet to run. Same thing with nordic which I also carry
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What make/model for $4,500?
That's a wonderful price for me, but I would want some semblance of quality??
You simply need to do a little research. Hotsprings makes the Hot Spot line, Nordic has tubs, you can get a Bullfrog for low 5s, lots of others out there. Plenty of quality. I'm not referring to the Costco tubs here.
L bullfrog has tubs in the low 5's? Which models I always thought there entry level stuff was pushing 7k
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If I'm overplaying the circ pump in terms of noise, I could drop that, but I'd really like the ozone
My nearest dealer is a "luxury" dealer, so they are always walking me up in price. For example, when I told them the Chelsee was too much, and I need to shave $2-3K off the price, is there something smaller, the recommend a J-345 for maybe a little less than $1K less. It's kind of getting to me. I appreciate all the help here.
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Your in mass correct? Whereabouts?
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What make/model for $4,500?
That's a wonderful price for me, but I would want some semblance of quality??
You simply need to do a little research. Hotsprings makes the Hot Spot line, Nordic has tubs, you can get a Bullfrog for low 5s, lots of others out there. Plenty of quality. I'm not referring to the Costco tubs here.
L bullfrog has tubs in the low 5's? Which models I always thought there entry level stuff was pushing 7k
Here, the R5L was $5500 less $500 rebate for Labor day.
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Your in mass correct? Whereabouts?
West of Boston
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If I'm overplaying the circ pump in terms of noise, I could drop that, but I'd really like the ozone
My nearest dealer is a "luxury" dealer, so they are always walking me up in price. For example, when I told them the Chelsee was too much, and I need to shave $2-3K off the price, is there something smaller, the recommend a J-345 for maybe a little less than $1K less. It's kind of getting to me. I appreciate all the help here.
I dunno, but on most tubs you can run a filter cycle any time you want. Run the cycle on low speed at 3 AM and I doubt you'll ever hear it.
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What make/model for $4,500?
That's a wonderful price for me, but I would want some semblance of quality??
You simply need to do a little research. Hotsprings makes the Hot Spot line, Nordic has tubs, you can get a Bullfrog for low 5s, lots of others out there. Plenty of quality. I'm not referring to the Costco tubs here.
L bullfrog has tubs in the low 5's? Which models I always thought there entry level stuff was pushing 7k
Here, the R5L was $5500 less $500 rebate for Labor day.
Wow had no idea. That must be a smaller tub. Bullfrog is definetely a neat design
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R5L is a 2-3 person tub I guess http://www.bullfrogspas.com/spas/r-series-hot-tubs/r5l/
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Your in mass correct? Whereabouts?
West of Boston
Im in southeast mass. The hot springs, jacuzzi, sundance dealer is a very reputable company. Depending how far west of Boston you are the Big E is going on in Springfield. Lots of spa dealers there. in the price range you are looking for you should be able to find a good amount of options
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If buying a refurbished hot tub try to buy one that was a high quality tub when new. Dealers get these tubs for little or nothing when people trade in / trade up and a refurbished 10 year old Mercedes is always going to be nicer than a 10 year old refurbished Yugo.
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I recently bought a 2008 Marquis Epic from someone off of Craigslist, and I have to say I'm very happy. The tub was over $11,000 new and I picked it up for $3,500.
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Thanks. A couple of questions:
1. how much cleaning did you have to do?
2. was it filled and running when you first saw it?
3. how old was the tub (what year)
4. how did you move it?
Thanks for any help.
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I looked at high end, fairly new tubs prior to buying new. My comments are inline.
Thanks. A couple of questions:
1. how much cleaning did you have to do? I set a limit of 2 years old for a used tub. All that we looked at were outwardly very clean. I'd have run a few cycles of Ahh-Some or similar product through any used tub prior to use if we had gone that route.
2. was it filled and running when you first saw it? I removed from consideration any tub that would not be seen running, heated, etc.
3. how old was the tub (what year) I was close to buying a 2014 Hot Spring Jetsetter that was 4 months old. Price was $4750 for a tub that had a retail of close to $8000
4. how did you move it? I had a local spa dealer who offered to rent me his Spa Dolly and 2 of his guys to collect, transport and install the tub. Cost to me was $250 for a weekend (tub was 5 hours away)
Thanks for any help.
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Thanks for the replies.
I have been watching craigslist, but in my immediate area, they are all like 10 years old. Maybe I just need to be patient for me recent ones :)
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I would be wary of 10 years old.... my current tub is a D1 and was a great tub for 10 years... then we moved it to build a new patio. Just from one side of the yard to the other, then back. It's been a leak monster ever since. I think that after 10 years, the pipe joints get brittle. No problem as long as you don't move it. So the used tub may look and run fine when you agree to buy it, but may not once you get it to a new location.
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I would be wary of 10 years old.... my current tub is a D1 and was a great tub for 10 years... then we moved it to build a new patio. Just from one side of the yard to the other, then back. It's been a leak monster ever since. I think that after 10 years, the pipe joints get brittle. No problem as long as you don't move it. So the used tub may look and run fine when you agree to buy it, but may not once you get it to a new location.
I'm surprised that you couldn't get at least one move out of a 10 yo D1. I have moved older D1's successfully.
I'd still be wary of 10 yo high quality manufacturers though unless it was cheap enough.