Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Chartreux on May 21, 2014, 06:13:07 pm
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This is going to be a tough question for y'all, But, which branding is considered the cream of the crop or as I put it Rolls Royce of all the Hot Tub/Spas Makers out there???
If I'm going to be putting $10,000 down I expect it to be the best of the crop...I'm really considering a Sundance and Bullfrog, maybe a Hot Springs model as there is no local Marquis and I cannot travel far, these are the three makers we did like, the one Jacuzzi dealer just didn't have much with limited models on hand and was a disappointment ...
So, far both Sundance dealers have impressed us, very knowledgable...and we will do a wet test, I just wanted opinions...
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There are a handful of "Top of the line" hot tubs out there. There will be varying opinions on who is the best. My personal favorite is Bullfrog, though Sundance and Hot Spring which you mentioned are right there at the top. There are many here would say one of those is the best.
My opinion is that Bullfrog offers a truly revolutionary design concept that nobody else has. Of all the brands that I have sold over the years, they are hands down my favorite. If my mom or best friend were buying a hot tub, I wouldn't let them buy anything else. That being said, Sundance and Hot Spring are widely considered in the top couple of manufacturers. I don't think you can go wrong with either of them.
Make sure that you are comfortable with the dealer and their reputation. Then do a wet test. Pick the tub that works best for you and your family. What works best for you may be totally different than me. I personally love a couple of the JetPaks that Bullfrog offers (Oscillator and Neck Masseuse) and am not a big fan of the Moto-massage from Hot Spring. There are other people on here who will tell you that the Moto-massage is the best jet ever. You never know until you feel it for yourself. Let these things be your deciding factors and not some sales pitch or what someone says is the best of the best.
Good luck in your search! Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about Bullfrog (I am currently a dealer for them).
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This is going to be a tough question for y'all, But, which branding is considered the cream of the crop or as I put it Rolls Royce of all the Hot Tub/Spas Makers out there???
If I'm going to be putting $10,000 down I expect it to be the best of the crop...I'm really considering a Sundance and Bullfrog, maybe a Hot Springs model as there is no local Marquis and I cannot travel far, these are the three makers we did like, the one Jacuzzi dealer just didn't have much with limited models on hand and was a disappointment ...
So, far both Sundance dealers have impressed us, very knowledgable...and we will do a wet test, I just wanted opinions...
There are a few very good brands out there and you're doing fine. Personally I think Sundance and Hot Spring are two of the very best out there.
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Sundance Tub we like and sat in was the Victoria, then these other 2 we would like to try (880) Altamar and (880) Cameo, Then the BullFrog R7L we'd like to see the dealer here did not have a R7L...Hot Springs Maybe the Envoy NXT Highlife and if we can find a Jacuzzi dealer with the J-LXL should be similar to the Sundance Victoria...
Both Sundance and Bullfrog had knowledgable salespeople..The first thing is just a seat test as my husband is 6'2" tall and 36 inches tall fits him good with me good as well, tubs under 36 inches tall no go they just don't fit my husband at all...Once we fit him, then we'll go around and ask about the wet testing, the Jacuzzi J-465 not sure we liked and 39 inches is too tall for me...I don't want to worry about having to have a seat pillow. We are favoring the Bullfrog more just because it has a textured blue...Sundance was good too ...this will be hard to decide...
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I personally prefer Bullfrog as that is what I own! We are very happy with it, zero problems, and provides the therapy we need. They are built a little different then all the rest requiring less holes in the shell. We also like being able to move the jet pacs to a favorite seat. We looked and wet tested a lot of different brands of spas when shopping and highly recommend anyone who is serious to wet test, wet test, wet test! As you said, they are expensive and you want to make sure you'll be happy with it for years to come. Other brand that we really like and has a very good reputation is Hot Spring.
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Chartreaux,
We are glad and honored to hear you are considering a Bullfrog Spa. These are all top notch brands. We of course have our favorite :)
I just wanted to chime in and let you know we're here to answer any questions you may have during your shopping process.
All the best,
Jake
Bullfrog Spas Support
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I'd put Beachcomber up on this list as well.
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This is going to be a tough question for y'all, But, which branding is considered the cream of the crop or as I put it Rolls Royce of all the Hot Tub/Spas Makers out there???
If I'm going to be putting $10,000 down I expect it to be the best of the crop...I'm really considering a Sundance and Bullfrog, maybe a Hot Springs model as there is no local Marquis and I cannot travel far, these are the three makers we did like, the one Jacuzzi dealer just didn't have much with limited models on hand and was a disappointment ...
So, far both Sundance dealers have impressed us, very knowledgable...and we will do a wet test, I just wanted opinions...
Hi Chartreux,
I recommend scheduling a visit to your local Hot Spring dealer to wet test a Hot Spring spa. We have just recently launched several 2014 Highlife spa models, so this is a great opportunity for you to see the latest and greatest from our team. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to reach out to our team. We want to make this process just as easy as possible for you. Finding a hot tub that fits your budget and lifestyle is a process, but we want to help you along the way.
Thank you and good luck with your hot tub search!
Erica
The Hot Spring Team
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I don't know about Rolls Royce, but I love my new Artic Klondiker. I think Artic makes a great spa.
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I think you'll find about 6-8 that are BMW's. Marquis, Beach, HS, Sundance, Caldera, D1, Arctic. And a whole bunch of Honda's. And even more Kia's.
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I liked the BeachComber 715, however when I type my address in on their website no local dealers pop up. Really need them to be local, I tried to contact them and it's hard and they have limited hours on their website??? Will check and see if Artic has a local dealer...
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I e-mailed both BeachComber and Arctic and only 1 reply from Arctic, So I probably will not even try BeachComber.
I'll need a more reliable company.
So far Sundance and Hot Springs have answered e-mails pretty good, Bullfrog okay with e-mails, a little slow...
Are the Coyote branding from Arctic actual an Arctic tub or are they another company. I liked the Coyote Tucson on the Arctic website it's spelled Tuscon, so I'm awaiting info on that one and if they have a dealer near me, they listed one place but no address...
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it will be above your budget but i'll just go ahead and leave this right here... 8)
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it will be above your budget but i'll just go ahead and leave this right here... 8)
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Way to assume!
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just bought a Jacuzzi j365. Any reason jacuzzi has not been mentioned here?????
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No reason at all. Top notch.
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just bought a Jacuzzi j365. Any reason jacuzzi has not been mentioned here?????
Like Tman mentioned, no need to worry you did great!!
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I have to agree with twincitieshotsrping. Hot Springs hit a grand slam with the redesign of there new highlife tub models. Enjoy Memorial Day weekend and happy tubbing to all.
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Went to the Local Hot Springs Dealer, yet another disappointment, no Jetsetter none, an 2013 Envoy that was way to deep, and No NXT Lines at all on the floor...and just wish when the companies had stuff out and online that they would make sure the store had some in stock, to wow everyone...They said it would take about a month for them to come in, so will hold off for now and maybe schedule a wet test for the BullFrog provided a dealer has the R7L in stock...will be making a call soon...
Sundance here has a altamar coming soon to a showroom and will give me a call when they get it for my wet testing on that model...For Sundance it's between the Altamar, Victoria and maybe the Capri...
and the thing I hate the most is all them telling me that they don't need a 60 amp panel (for the jetsetter, and capri), why would I underpower a hot tub, would you under power a computer with 2 graphic card, no way, I built my computer and personally installed the mobo (mother board) and picked out all the parts and removed and installed good fans on the case...I can overclock...
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I see nobody mentioned Artesian! ;D Their Platinum Series tends to be different then other manufacturers. I don't know how they're doing these days but they used to have great customer service. I own their Island series and have been impressed with it.
If they are still going strong financially I certainly would look at them!
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The first Jacuzzi dealer had only 4 jacuzzi's and a bunch of Artesians tubs and well my husband just didn't like them. Just something about them sent my husband off to say "No"...He'd rather do the Bullfrog over the Artesians and they really didn't impress me with what they had on the showroom floor...I might look at the website...
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The first Jacuzzi dealer had only 4 jacuzzi's and a bunch of Artesians tubs and well my husband just didn't like them. Just something about them sent my husband off to say "No"...He'd rather do the Bullfrog over the Artesians and they really didn't impress me with what they had on the showroom floor...I might look at the website...
There's a reason why there are a few manufacturers out there ... not everybody is going to like the same thing!
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Coyote is made by Arctic... I was actually doing some research on a new tub (well... our first one ever) and called them this week and got this answer in regards to the different between an "Arctic" and a "Coyote"... hope it helps! We ended up purchasing an H20 Tub today (manufacturer is local and showed us around... quality seemed great for price and we really liked dealing with them personally) just because in the end we didn't like the Coyote design personally... but they seemed like solid tubs.
From Arctic Head Office:
The primary differences between the Arctic line and the Coyote line are quite numerous, I will give you the major ones. You will se the difference in price I think if you look at the sum of the parts.
Shell - Coyote is Acrylic backed with ABS plastic and elastocast, Arctic is Acrylic backed with hand rolled fiberglass and resin, Arctic is stronger, better heat transfer, longer warranty.
Cabinet - Coyote is a 2 x 4 wooden frame with composite cabinet material insulated with a reflective backed foam around the perimeter. Arctic is solid grain, furniture grade cedar, 2 x 4 top and bottom rails with 3/8" tongue and groove walls, insulted with 3 1/2" of 3lb spray foam around the perimeter. Arctic will conserve heat better, also cedar does not rot and is insect resistant.
Floor - Coyote is a treated wooden floor covered with moulded ABS plastic. Patio blocks, paver stones or concrete pad is required. Arctic is pressure moulded Fiberglass and resin, this is the same technology they put on the bottom of Hummers for Military service for explosion protection. This creates its own foundation requiring only a hard level surface. Arctic is also completely sealed resisting insects, also rodents cannot chew through the Floor, it is too strong and thick.
Cover - Coyote is a 4" - 2" taper cover, core wrapped in Mylar Arctic is 5" - 4" taper, core wrapped in Mylar for moisture resistance. Arctic is reinforced with a steel C channel, rated for 2500 lbs spread weight load. A grown man can easily stand and walk across an Arctic cover without damaging it.
Jets - Coyote uses a combination of 1/2" fixed bullet jets, 2"non adjustable rotating jets, and 3" adjustable rotating jets. Arctic uses only 3 1/2" and 5" shaft mounted, fully adjustable, rotating massage jets, more flexibility and massage adjustment.
Motors - Coyote uses industry standard 56 frame open air motors. Arctic uses 56 frame Whitewater motors, totally sealed against moisture and dust. IP rated 5.5
Upgradability - Coyotes are fixed packages. Arctic can be upgraded at a later date with new options at a later date, in your back yard.
I have attached warranty info as well, there are some differences there as well.
This is not to say that Coyote is an inferior or substandard product, it is just built to the same standards as most of the other spa on the market. Arctic is constantly trying to improve upon and exceed those standards.
Either way you will be getting a fantastic spa.
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Thank You cdn_cowboy. I appreciate the information.
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This is not to say that Coyote is an inferior or substandard product, it is just built to the same standards as most of the other spa on the market. Arctic is constantly trying to improve upon and exceed those standards.
Either way you will be getting a fantastic spa.
The guy was doing mostly OK until he threw this in to slam other products. Salesman....LOL, gulp.
It should read "it is built to the standards of other spas in it's category." Would of been more..... gentler.
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Haha ya I thought the same Tman122! Except it was just a customer service guy at their head office so I'm sure it wasn't meant that way. If he was a sales guy he would never have gotten to the point at the end where he had to tell me "not that it's an inferior product" - LOL. I have to admit I was very impressed and surprised that they took the time to give me that much info and comparison between their own brands... Talking to the sales guy at the store you wouldn't have thought there was really any difference at all!
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Come on, Tman! You really have to try hard to read something into that. And anyway, if the guy did go overboard (which I don't believe he did), for $hit sakes, he works for the company. What is wrong with him being excited with his product?
-You need a couple of red wines and a good soak in your tub. :)
The guy was doing mostly OK until he threw this in to slam other products. Salesman....LOL, gulp.
It should read "it is built to the standards of other spas in it's category." Would of been more..... gentler.