Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: starsky on July 08, 2008, 06:58:49 pm
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The Grand Bahama is in the Island Series of Artesian. This particular one has 62 jets, 3 pumps + 24 hr circulation pump. Full foam, LED lights, Ozonator, cover, lifter, steps, delivery and chems for $8699.00 I'll be wet testing Friday but wanted some input on the price and the spa. A search was done of the site prior to opening this new topic and I didn't find a whole lot.
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I'm not too current with Artesian pricing but from what I can remember when I was looking at Artesian Spas that seems like a fair price. I wet tested the Dove Canyon and really liked it. It had great power and fit me well. It was just a little more than I wanted to spend and the dealer didn't impress me.
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actually that is a very nice price for that tub with those options. good deal! ;)
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Thanks for the input.. I love this site!
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I just bought an Artesian Island Antigua (Smaller version of the Grand Bahama) and we are very happy with it. (We have only had it a week)
But that seems like a pretty good price for the Grand Bahama with all of those options. Artesian gets an A+ from us. (So Far anyway!) :)
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That sounds like a pretty good price. We bought a Piper Glen in Oct 2006 and paid 10K for it.
We love our tub but can't stand our dealer!
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I agree - sounds like a good price. We bought a 2007 Piper Glen for $10,200 in February 2008. We had to wait until spring to install it but have now been using it for about a month and love it!
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I wet tested the 2007 model 52 jet Artesian Grand Bahama today. Here are my thoughts...
I found the lounge was a good fit. I didn't float out. The jets were well placed. I liked the jets hitting my hamstring and calf muscles. I thought the foot jets were a bit weak. The collared neck jet seat was a good fit and I didn't have splash out issues like I did with the Coleman 781. So that seat was another place besides the lounge I could fit in and spend time. I was really impressed with the middle seat with the pillow waterfall. The jet placement on that one was incredible and felt great. So at that point there were 3 seats that I liked. Then we got into another model tub that had the same seat the Grand Bahama 2008 model will have. They are replacing the second, smaller collared seat with this quasi lounge seat with a gentle slope at your legs with jets in the slope.. I loved that seat too... To sum it up, I found this particula model will have 4 seats that are really useable and well thought out with one that is just ok.. Coming from a 97 Sundance that just had one seat that was good and 3 or 4 ok seats, this was impressive. I took my girlfriend with me again, she has wet tested Jacuzzi and Coleman with me and she is 5'9 and liked this one better than the J-375 or the C-781. I have to concur.
It would be 8 grand for the 52 jet 2 pump that would include another 24 hr circulation pump, Dynabrite lighting, ozonator, stainless jet collars, pillow waterfall, cover, lifter, steps, delivery and chems.
I have yet to wet test the Dimension 1 but the salesman didnt seem interested in filling up the model I was shopping for and offered the top of the line version with no lounger to wet test which I think would be pointless.
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I own a 52 jet 2005 Cayman ... my opinion is get the 3 therapy pumps with the 62 jets if you can afford it. Artesian has a pumping diagram (or at least they did in 2005) and you can see what the pumps will pump. Sometimes companies put too many jets on a pump and it changes the way it'll feel.
My tub has a lot of power with 52 jets and 3 therapy pumps.
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I appreciate the input... I originally was going to get the 62 jet 3 pump..and the salesman gave me the diagram showing the difference and pump 3 in the Grand Bahama would only pump one seat, and it wasn't even one of the 4 favorite seats. The missing 10 jets were not going to impact what I would feel too much. Its about a 600 dollar difference and honestly, I wouldn't mind paying for the 3rd pump and extra jets but in this case, it didnt seem like it was going to be worth it. I'll bet the 2005 Caymen might be different.
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They have changed the Island series and in 2005 I believe they had the footjets in the 2 pump version going to pump 2 and separated the footjets plus added another jet in the 3 pump version.
Artesian puts out a nice spa IMO, I've been happy with it. Although it's not one of the big 3 or 4 it still is a nice tub. I haven't had major problems with it and during the 3 years of ownership I have had 2 minor problems - Air valve not shutting off and jets breaking which they had received bad jets from Waterway and they have taken care of them 100% throughout the warranty period.
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Thats good to hear. I went back through my literature on the tubs Ive tested or been interested in, The J-375, C-781, D-1 Aurora, Limelight Flair, and for me..keyword me...I think the Artesian Grand Bahama is the best value for me and the best fit. So I will be getting the Grand Bahama. Its a matter of ironing out the details with the dealer and getting it ordered.
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Congrats! You will enjoy it! ;)
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Thats a great price for the Bahama. We just wet-tested an Artesian Antiqua. The base price was $7695. But then they nickel and dime you with all those extras....ozonator,lighting, stainless jets,cover lifter. It came to $8800. I told them everyone throws in the lifter so they took that off. Still it is $8600. I loved the spa, but I thought that was a bit pricey for that model. We also have our eye on the Sundance Hartford w/lights and stainless jets or the Sunrise Aquarian w/lights and stainless jets. Both these tubs are in the $7200 - $7500 range. So I'm thinking this Artesian Antigua is comparable to these and that the dealer should be able to come down on his price. What do you think? By the way, did you negotiate that price or was that the first offer?
crystal
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I didn't negotiate much. I started out by telling him my budget. I said I want the biggest bang for my buck and I have about 7,500 to spend. As we progressed through what they had, I mentioned I was considering some other tubs, which I was. I think he did a real good job keeping it down in my price range. I am really just looking for a fair price as I know the dealer/salesman needs to make a profit to keep open. From what I'm hearing on this forum the 8K for the Grand Bahama with ...2 pumps,plus one 24 hr circulation pump, 52 jets, stainless, l.e.d. lighting, pillowfall, ozonator, nature 2 carrtridge, steps, lifter and delivery with start up chems, I really don't think I will bargain any. I THINK I recall him saying the Antigua would be 600 bucks cheaper.
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I ordered my Grand Bahama today. I added the LED lighted cascade waterfall over the filter intake for another 100 bucks. So for everything excluding tax..8,199.00 out the door. The upgrades are...
52 jets, stainless steel
Pillow Water Fall
Dynabrite LED lighting
Waterfall Cascade
24 hr circulation pump
Ozonator
Then of course it comes with cover, lifter, steps, chems, delivery.
It should coincide with my pool getting finished..
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We use to sell Artesian and they are a lot better than they use to be, some can be like a Bayliner boat, say 1 out of 10. Once they get the kinks out, its a great runner. Don't loose heart if you have an issue with it right off the bat, as long as the dealer is reputable you will be fine.
The island series is a nice line, the only thing I didn't like is the 3 year warranty for the price. May have changed now??
Enjoy your spa, some pics are always nice!!
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Thanks.. I will post some picks when its set up by the pool. I wish it had 5 instead of 3 yr warranty but... all things considered, I think it was my best value. Jacuzzi dealer for some reason, was trying to sell way above what I saw others getting their tubs at. I understand there might be some regional disparity, but he was a little too high to make jacuzzi a possibility for me. Dimension 1 dealer offered a good price for the Aurora he had, but wouldn't fill it up to wet test. Hot Springs dealer was telling me the Flair was partial foam..I was only interested in full foam. Unfortunatley after I made a deal with the Artesian dealer, the Hot Springs guy called me and said they are starting to make the flair full foam now. But he was at 8 grand and comparing apples to apples, I thought the Grand Bahama was a better deal. So all in all Jim, I feel I put the time and effort in, compared the tubs I liked as best I could, wet testing all that were available and fit the criteria, and came out with the top value. A guy can't ask for more than that....
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You will be very happy with it!! ;)
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Starsky,
Did you think about buying an extended warranty for the Artesian? My husband asked that question last night and I think the salesman told him it would be $300 extra for two years. Not sure if we will do that but he said they would need to know before it came in.
crystal
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Starsky,
Did you think about buying an extended warranty for the Artesian? My husband asked that question last night and I think the salesman told him it would be $300 extra for two years. Not sure if we will do that but he said they would need to know before it came in.
crystal
When I bought mine in 2005, they offered it then as well. I questioned my dealer about it - my dealer was great -not pushing anything. She said (this was back in 2005) - 'they use all the same components that are in the higher end lines except for the electronics, all quality stuff - don't waste your money on it'. My warranty expired last month and other than a few minor problems nothing has happened to my tub. Was it a smart move not to extend the warranty - I guess I'll find out. Most extended warranties are there to make money not to protect the consumer although the consumer feels secure.
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As a rule I never buy an extended warranty. It comes with a 3 yr warranty, which should identify any serious defects from the manufacturer by then. Anything after that, I'll use that 300 bucks I saved towards the repair.
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Update; fast forward 3 yrs... Still loving the Grand Bahama. Had one issue with the circuit board under warranty which was repaired at no cost. Still running strong and looks new. Still using it a few times a week and with the winter JUST hitting us here in Texas, ready for another season.