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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: snoopydance on July 09, 2008, 08:38:40 am

Title: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: snoopydance on July 09, 2008, 08:38:40 am
I'm scheduled to have my tub hooked up by the electrician next week.  ;D He will fill it for me and test everything, then I plan to add Spa Flush and run it to clean all the jets and tubes and everything. (I bought a used tub.) Then I plan to drain it and refill it, with all the proper chemicals, N2 and an ozonator.

My tub holds 350 gallons. Where do you-all drain your tub? I have a walkway on the side of my house where it is just lawn. Should I do it there? Will the chems kill the grass? That's OK, but I'd like to know. Will the large quantity of water work its way into my foundation or my neighbors driveway? I guess it depends on the slope and the water table. I'm in Upstate NY.

I apologize if this is a dumb question. It seems like a lot of water...

Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Mr._Bubbles on July 09, 2008, 09:22:08 am
I drain my spa in the back yard, far from the house. I would not drain it near your foundation at all.  The soils ability to absorb the water is really dependent (or is it dependant :P) on your location and soil type.  I’ve not had any problems with the chems killing the grass, it may be even greener.
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Chas on July 09, 2008, 09:44:56 am
I have drained my tub onto my fruit trees for years. They seem to do fine. Most of my customers drain into their yards, and report the best parts of their lawn are right where they drain the tub. You simply remember not to add chlorine the night before you drain. Even if you do have a chlorine level, you can still drain into planters - just not on new lawn or other tender plants. The chlorine is gone by time the water gets very far into the soil.

I don't know about Baqua - the short time I used it at home I drained into the street just in case, and I have not spoken to any of our Baqua users to see how they handle it. Hopefully some Baqua users can chime in here.

Now....

The pipe cleaning chems you mention might be a different story. I would read the label on the bottle and go by what the chem company has to say. You might need to drain THAT load of water into a sanitary sewer or put it down a dry well, out on the street or similar.

 8-)

 

Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Gomboman on July 10, 2008, 12:15:31 am
I drain mine into my backyard drainage system. I have drainage pipes in my backyard that run underneath our property which are cored to my front curb. The water makes it into our sewer system. It's pretty common where I live.
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Swell-Tub on July 10, 2008, 01:45:29 pm
It is the law in Vegas. Spa's and pools have to be drained into the sewer system for reclamation. You are not allowed to let it run outside. So someone is drinking my spa water somewhere in Vegas.

Scott  8-)
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Cdn HockeyPuck on July 10, 2008, 02:08:58 pm
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So someone is drinking my spa water somewhere in Vegas.

Scott  8-)
:o  ;D
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: In Canada eh on July 10, 2008, 04:27:32 pm
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It is the law in Vegas. Spa's and pools have to be drained into the sewer system for reclamation. You are not allowed to let it run outside. So someone is drinking my spa water somewhere in Vegas.

Scott  8-)



Actually Scott,

  You guys have an amazing water system in place, I have read a lot about Las Vegas' water system and their conservation policies, they are great.  For those of you that don't know Vegas has 3 separate water systems drinking water, grey water and sanitary sewage.  The drinking water is treated and used like most other major cities in Canada and the US.  The grey water is a combination of storm water and non potable (bath tub, shower, laundry etc. etc.) that is send to a treatment facility and then sent back to irrigate lawns, fire hydrants and other non potable uses.  It really is a great system and is good for the environment.  So no one is drinking the water from your spa but they may be watering their lawn or the local fire department could be using your spa water to put out a fire.

  My hat is really off to the water authority in Vegas and I would love to see more North American cities adopt this type of conservation policy
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Swell-Tub on July 10, 2008, 09:24:18 pm
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Actually Scott,

  You guys have an amazing water system in place, I have read a lot about Las Vegas' water system and their conservation policies, they are great.  For those of you that don't know Vegas has 3 separate water systems drinking water, grey water and sanitary sewage.  The drinking water is treated and used like most other major cities in Canada and the US.  The grey water is a combination of storm water and non potable (bath tub, shower, laundry etc. etc.) that is send to a treatment facility and then sent back to irrigate lawns, fire hydrants and other non potable uses.  It really is a great system and is good for the environment.  So no one is drinking the water from your spa but they may be watering their lawn or the local fire department could be using your spa water to put out a fire.

  My hat is really off to the water authority in Vegas and I would love to see more North American cities adopt this type of conservation policy
Canada, you are right but the attached article didn't help much:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/mar/11/drugs-our-water/

BTW it is against the law to sell a new house in Vegas with grass in the landscaping. After you buy it you can put in grass. They also give you a credit on your water bill if you change your grass landscaping to desert landscaping. Water conservation is a very big issue here in the desert.

Scott  8-)
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Steve on July 10, 2008, 10:01:09 pm
On the lawn is fine but I would suggest to have the chlorine below 1 ppm. As Chas said, often, it is the most lush part of your lawn! :)
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Hillbilly Hot Tub on July 11, 2008, 11:50:41 am
Normally if the sanitizer level is low, water your yard, but since you said you are using spa flush, I would be careful where you dump that stuff. Whats in it? Some of them are harsh chemicals, some are all natural and won't hurt anything.
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Calypso on July 11, 2008, 12:38:40 pm
Has anyone drained their spa that uses a salt water system and a bromine generator. I know I will have to shut down the bromine generator to reduce the bromine. The sodium bromide is only 2000 parts per million which is a low salt content so that show not be an issue.

I will probably let it flow into the drainage ditch behind our property or Icould use it to water the plants/lawn.
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Mr._Bubbles on July 11, 2008, 12:57:16 pm
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On the lawn is fine but I would suggest to have the chlorine below 1 ppm. As Chas said, often, it is the most lush part of your lawn! :)

Honestly, I have drained it with much higher levels with no problems.  I just don’t like the idea of letting my chlorine drop that low.
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Steve on July 11, 2008, 03:56:49 pm
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Honestly, I have drained it with much higher levels with no problems.  I just don’t like the idea of letting my chlorine drop that low.

I'm sure many have but giving advise here in general terms, I would rather be cautious in my recommendations than have someone pissed at me for burning their lawn.

Does it really matter that the levels drop that low if all you're doing is draining it?  :-? On a fresh fill, it is recommended to shock the water anyway so no biggie really.
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Mr._Bubbles on July 11, 2008, 06:30:41 pm
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I'm sure many have but giving advise here in general terms, I would rather be cautious in my recommendations than have someone pissed at me for burning their lawn.

Does it really matter that the levels drop that low if all you're doing is draining it?  :-? On a fresh fill, it is recommended to shock the water anyway so no biggie really.

I agree with you, especially when you’re talking about delicate plants or grass.  I was just saying, I usually don’t let my chlorine level drop before a drain.  In fact, I’ve shocked a day before with no issues.  I only did this because I knew my spa was going to set dry in a shop for a month, waiting for a repair. :(

If I am not mistaken, you can use peroxide to neutralize the chlorine. I never tried it, so I can’t comment on that.  At least this would not allow the tub to set a period of time with a low sanitizer level.

Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Mr._Bubbles on July 11, 2008, 06:34:55 pm
Oops..
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Spatech_tuo on July 11, 2008, 07:00:58 pm
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I agree with you, especially when you’re talking about delicate plants or grass.  I was just saying, I usually don’t let my chlorine level drop before a drain.  In fact, I’ve shocked a day before with no issues.  I only did this because I knew my spa was going to set dry in a shop for a month, waiting for a repair. :(

If I am not mistaken, you can use peroxide to neutralize the chlorine. I never tried it, so I can’t comment on that.  At least this would not allow the tub to set a period of time with a low sanitizer level.


It’s not about letting the chlorine levels drop IMO its about just not adding before you dump. People are always posting about not being able to keep their levels up so I’ve never had an issue where I had to wait for it to drop. I'll use my spa the night before I drain and just don't add chlorine when I get out and the next day the chlorine level will be very low.

In fact sometimes when I drain my spa the chlorine level is probably lower than what the water measures coming out of the tap so it's certainly not hurting any plants, delicate or otherwise.
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: Mr._Bubbles on July 11, 2008, 07:07:13 pm
Ahh heck, we don't need no chlorine anyway. ;)
Title: Re: Where do you drain your spa?
Post by: kacrab10 on July 12, 2008, 01:27:17 pm
I just drained with a long hose into my driveway which went into grass and street after using the spapurge stuff.  Didn't seem to hurt a thing.