Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Im not Dr. Spa on March 03, 2008, 08:14:44 pm
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First off... this is my first post here. I like the forum and look forward to learning and contributing. I have been in the industry many years and recently read an interesting article in Spa Retailer discussing spa technicians, and how the large majority don't have the right tools with them to correctly troubleshoot, and effectively save their company time and money. Believe it or not, service deparments can and most definately should be a profit center.
I see many retail store owners posting here. If you haven't read the article, I suggest doing so, it's a good read. Also, i'm curious as to what feedback you have.
For those of you operating a top notch service department, how do you set your technicians up for success? Are you purchasing them the right tools? Are they set up with a company van? How about uniforms? Share your secrets of success with us!
I know it's also possible to hire outside service providers to handle service work. Any success stories? Horror stories? Let's talk pros and cons.
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I don't think this is the right place to do this -
There is a web discussion board for Retailers on another site....
See you there.
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I don't think this is the right place to do this -
There is a web discussion board for Retailers on another site....
See you there.
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The service that a retailer provides is a key deciding factor in who to purchase a spa from. I think this discussion might be productive for both consumers and retailers alike.
To answer the original question I firmly believe that sub-contractors are the devil. Either for repairs or installations having an "in-house" crew makes all the difference. We use Vans that are fully stocked. Our goal is to make every service call a one trip fix. There is nothing worse than making 2 or 3 trips to a customers house.
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Can we really have 2 Dr Spas here? Confusing!!! ;D
I am a service tech but in the medical industry. I am a contractor in this industry but I would pit my abilities against hospital employees and I would also say my work ethic is the same as theirs. Not all contractors are scum sucking people. But with that said a lot are. The problem is contractors work for the person that pays their salary and unfortunately going out of the way is something a lot of contractors aren't known to do.
If you can find a contractor that will give it 100% for you - it may be worth it but many times they won't ... of course you could come upon a gem of a contractor that treats your business like his/her own. Having everyone on the same page business wise is a great asset when it comes to the customer - take it from someone who sees this stuff all the time.
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I don't think this is the right place to do this -
There is a web discussion board for Retailers on another site....
See you there.
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I think there are many non-spa-retailers, like myself, on this board that would be very interested in reading the discussion. Please continue on here.
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AN IMPOSTOR !
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AN IMPOSTOR !
How is that possible?
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Sorry for the confusion. I'm not sure how I was able to create a user name already taken, trying to change it now. Also, if someone could link me to the dealer forum mentioned that would be nice. Chaz pmed me but I can't reply until I have 5 posts.
Thanks. I'll start the convo over there.
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If folks want to talk about how service technicians show up unprepared, don't show up late or not at all, don't call, let the dog out, flatten the flowers, make a mess, use the bathroom and dirty the good towels, stink.... that would be perfect here. We can all relate to that, and some of us have even had a repair guy show up on time, with the correct parts, as promised, do the job the first visit, call on the way, lock the gate behind them, clean up after themselves, and bath regularly! I sure aim for all of that from our techs.
But the discussion of profit vs. loss, and related business things seems like a natural fit for the retailer board.
BTW - nice change on the name - you will fit right in around here!
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BTW - nice change on the name - you will fit right in around here!
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I was thinking "Dr Spa TUO" (a-la spa tech) ;)
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I was thinking "Dr Spa TUO" (a-la spa tech) ;)
That would have been a wise choice!!
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I don't think this is the right place to do this -
There is a web discussion board for Retailers on another site....
See you there.
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That forum is pretty much non existent. I went and checked it out and there are about a total of 8 posts between the five different forums on there. Seems like a good idea, but one that isnt being used at this point in time.
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Well, in any event I hope I didn't make you feel less than welcome. We all contribute around here, and I do welcome you.
What part of the world are you in? I'm in Southern Cal between Santa Barbara and LA. And LA is between fantasy and reality.
As to your questions - I supply my techs and delivery crew with T Shirts. Right now, they simply say "HotSpring Portable Spas" on them. The shirts, that is, not the techs. I don't promote tats.
We have the name of our business on only one of four trucks - but that is because two of the trucks get driven for all manner of things from picking up spas at the factory to towing my ski boats. I was about to buy a new truck, and turn the old one over to only family use - if the economy picks up a bit I might do it. Then I will plaster the name of the company all over it.
As to showing up with parts to do the job - I have been doing this a couple of decades, and we have pretty much got the spa problem trouble shooting done before we leave the warehouse. So it is rare to have to go back. It happens to all of us, but if we think it might happen, we let the customer know and then they can decide to have us wait until the part is in hand, or show up on the chance that it might be something else which can be fixed on the spot.
We cover a huge part of California for Caldera, but not much for HotSpring. I have had some hassles with that. I get calls from a hundred miles away to go fix Caldera, and that is the one line we are the least prepared for, and the line we are least familiar with. We almost always have to do some research and order parts in advance before we hit the road on those trips. That area is open for new reps, BTW, and I'm not going to complain if it gets carved up a bit!
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And as to Spa Retailer being so slow - it really IS slow over there. I guess we could post a link since it is not truly in direct competition to this or other consumer-based boards - right?
Anyway, I was thinking about starting some sort of scandal. Always builds the traffic here. Costco, Colorado man and family, a big 'free spa contest' or something real crazy. Any suggestions?
Dr. Spa (real or imagined) do either of you want to volunteer for anything?
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We have the name of our business on only one of four trucks - [glow]but that is because two of the trucks get driven for all manner of things from picking up spas at the factory to towing my ski boats. [/glow]I was about to buy a new truck, and turn the old one over to only family use - if the economy picks up a bit I might do it. Then I will plaster the name of the company all over it.
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Why would the fact that those trucks get used for spa pick up and even pulling ski boats stop you from advertising on them? I would think you'd want to take advantage of the advertising as much as possible?
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You haven't seen how my wife drives, have you?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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How is that possible?
I'm Dr. Spa, the "other" is Dr._Spa
Maybe I should change to;
Dr. Spa™
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You haven't seen how my wife drives, have you?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks for the response. It sounds like you really have your gameplan down. When you say you have the troubleshooting down before you leave the warehouse, are you going through a standardized set of questions with the customer?
Is this a conversation your technicians have with the customer to prepare for the visit? If so, bravo. I think it's key to get as much information as possible before spending any money (parts, gas, etc.)
If not, good old experience really does help when it comes to knowing what common field issues you will be faced with, but I still think the more work done on the phone the better.
I really like the idea of advertising on the vehicles, especially service vehicles that are on the streets all day, even if it's just a simple magnet. I think it comforts the customer as well to see a professional vehicle show up, rather then an unmarked white dodge van (dirtied to a yellow hue and limo tinted windows, you know the one)
I'm also curious, what types of tools do you require your techs to carry, if any?
Now that we've heard from what sounds like a seasoned pro, i'm curious to know what the "newer" players are doing out there. If you are doing things differently, what are they? And why are you doing them?
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Just because you are talking about advertising, I will add this:
When we bought our tub, my dealer gave each of us a tee shirt with his business information and a cute picture of a bear jumping into a hot tub. Hubby and I wore them to a baseball game one day and a friend asked about the shirts and if we had a tub. It gave us an opportunity to talk about how we loved our tub and how wonderful our dealer has been. They ended up buying a tub and they got it from our dealer...so it pays to advertise on trucks, on bodies...where ever...and shirts have to be a pretty inexpensive method... ;)
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Hey Chas speaking of advertising do spa dealers ever place a little
emblem on spas like car dealers do on the back of cars?
(http://www.1971elcamino.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/dealer-emblem.jpg)
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Well I wrote the article so I guess I should chime in here...
I disagree that we should not air this on our forum here, talking about the profitability of a service organization just as important as allowing customers to challenge price on the spas through this forum daily.
We are in business to make money; if customers don't realize that then we're all in trouble!
I wrote the article to get the point across that it is very costly to service centers and manufactures when dealers allow techs to go out unprepared. I've done it myself and writing the article was a great lesson to me.
More importantly I wanted to get the point out that you cannot do your job correctly without proper tools (like an amp meter). It's amazing how many techs depend on "parts swapping" as a means of troubleshooting. This just deflates customer’s confidence and raises costs all up the ladder from the dealer to the vendors the manufacture uses.
I personally don't fear educating a customer to ask questions like "so what kind of amps were we getting out of my heater?" In a struggling economy lets train our customers to weed out the mediocre techs and pay fair wage for the top dogs.
We are not cheap but we do a good job...
I often refer to the engineer that built Henry Fords first factory;
One day they had a power failure at the factory and know one could figure out how to get the power on, he called his friend Edison who came over and flipped a few switches and turned a few levers and power came on... the next day ford got a bill for $10,000 from Edison. Ford sent Edison a note saying “You’re bill seemed a bit extravagant just to flip a few switches...”
Edison sent a note back saying he agreed and that he revised the bill to read, "time spent flipping a few switches and turning a few levers $50… Knowing what switches to flip and which levers to turn $9950."
We should be paid well not just to change parts but also to know which parts to change!