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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: texxags on October 02, 2007, 09:35:00 pm

Title: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: texxags on October 02, 2007, 09:35:00 pm
I was thinking of getting a hot tub (Jacuzzi Model 365). Do any of you out there have one or had one. We are a family of 4 (Son 5, Daughter is 3) Is it worth spending 7k installing one, for the family.  The Kids can use it as a small pool.   Please give me your advise , comments or experiences  :-)
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: 96SC on October 03, 2007, 12:33:36 am
First off, welcome to the forum.   :)

This is my opinion only, others may disagree.
If you have ailments that owning a hot tub will help then by all means get one.  Hot tubs and young kids don't mix well.  I don't know this for fact but I have heard that their smaller bodies can't dissipate the heat as quickly as an adult can (remember the water will be around 102 degrees).  Making them more vulnerable to over heating problems.  If you want a family 'play' area get a pool.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: anne on October 03, 2007, 01:19:12 am
I grew up with a redwood hot tub, and it was wonderful! I never stayed in as long as my parents, but I splashed around and enjoyed it greatly, and I think I survived OK. Not that any kids should be unsupervised, or soaking at 105F, but I'd say that kids and hot tubs can mix. I guess if what you really want is just a playpool, then there may be better ways to go, but by the time I was in HS, every early, freezing morning started with a hot soak, and I loved it.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: hottubdan on October 03, 2007, 01:20:06 am
There are many Jacuzzi owners out there pm the forum.

If you turn the heat down for the wee ones it shuld be no problem.

If in doubt, consult your doctor.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: TravelingSpaGuy on October 03, 2007, 03:15:23 am
Just keep the temp no warmer then 100 or so and make sure they stay hydrated...bring water bottles out with you.  I used to love hot tubbing at my best friends house since before I can remember.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: texxags on October 03, 2007, 06:18:21 am
I was thinking if I kept the water down to the lower 90's, then the kids could enjoy, and I can relax (with kids splashing though)
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: mike in arkansas on October 03, 2007, 08:06:19 am
Good morning Tex!! A relative newby (newbie?) here. I have had kids in our hot tubs on occasion (grandkids and friends kids) and actually as much as I love them they drive me crazy when they are in the hot tub. They LOVE to flip the pumps on and off as fast as they can -- and the knobs and valves and water falls are endless diversions. I am not sure if a hot tub can stand up to that sort of abuse. Anyway I suppose it depends on the age of the kids. I woudl agree with some of the other posts about getting a pool if that is what you really want.

Oh by the way -- lower 90's is REAL cool in a hot tub -- I thinnk you will find it uncomfortable for any length of time!

Just my humble opinion here in Arkansas

Blessings, Mike
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Steve on October 03, 2007, 10:33:40 am
Kids and hot tubs are totally fine if common sense is applied.

We don't think twice about setting them in a bathtub at 100+ degrees right?

For every 10 minutes their in a hot tub, they should be out for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Renee on October 03, 2007, 10:43:48 am
Texxags:
We just purchased the Jacuzzi 365 tub...got it at the beginning of August and LOVE it!  We have 2 kids, ages 7 & 12.  We set the rules at the beginning and have not have any problems.  We let them stay in the tub for 20 minutes, after which the pumps automatically shut off.  Then they have to go inside, and my hubby and I stay in the tub with just the waterfall on for another 20 minutes WITHOUT kids.  Great arrangement in my opinion!  ;)

The Jacuzzi 365 has just the right amount of "fluff" for us.   The lighting is awesome at night, and I love the waterfall.  We particularly like the 4 corner seats.  That is how we ruled out Hot Springs, which was the only other choice in our area.   They put their filter in the corner, taking up a valuable corner seat.  Keep in mind I'm 6' tall, and my husband is 6'3".  We need all the leg room we can get!

Make sure you wet test to be sure you like the jets.  Everyone's opinion is different.

Good luck, and hope you are hot tubbin' with the rest of us soon!  
--renee
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on October 03, 2007, 01:08:37 pm
The J-365 is a great family spa, and not to big for just 2 ;)  I keep our spa at 101 to 102* with a 6 and a 3 year old with no problems, they are only in for 20 min if that. I think at 90 is pretty low for winter and just right for summer.

 What kind of price you looking at?  We sell it at normal 8995.00 on sale at 7995.00
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: loosenupspas on October 03, 2007, 01:20:49 pm
hot tubs are good for wearing down the little ones, they bob around in the hot water and it tires them out.  Then put them to bed and you and the wife enjoy hot tub in peace and quiet.  But discuss the hot tub with your family doctor regarding the effect on the wee ones.  
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: texxags on October 03, 2007, 01:51:05 pm
$7500 plus tax.....Comes with tub, radio, Two sets of steps and easy opening cover.   Is that good or bad?
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on October 03, 2007, 02:05:03 pm
7500.00 with stereo and 2 sets steps very,very good.    Coverlifter and ozone?? even better!
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Venissa on October 03, 2007, 04:36:05 pm
Children's bodies are more sensitive to extreme temperatures than adults, and therefore have a different reaction when exposed to high temperatures. Small children should not be in a hot tub to begin with, but if they are for some reason, they are at risk of damaging their brain and other parts of their body. When a child's head is immersed underwater, the heat that is absorbed can greatly damage the brain. Because children are already susceptible to risk in a hot tub, it will not take long for injury to occur. A good rule of thumb is to keep small children out of a hot tub altogether. Older children can use a hot tub but only for short periods of time -10 minutes maximum - and should never completely immerse their head underwater.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: hottubdan on October 03, 2007, 04:39:45 pm
This explains my kids' brain damage. :D

Seriously, those are serious claims.

Sources please.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Venissa on October 03, 2007, 04:47:30 pm
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This explains my kids' brain damage. :D

Seriously, those are serious claims.

Sources please.

Here is the exact source:
http://www.hottubsandhomespas.com/hot-tubs/not-so-stupid.aspx

I have read it in other places as well - not those exact words but more or less the same thing.  I never let young children in my tub due to those type statements found on the net.  It scares me to death....I would rather be safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on October 03, 2007, 04:57:22 pm
A good read for parents who worry about there kids.  Not pointing fingers Venissa!!  :)

http://www.w-uh.com/articles/030709-people_over_30.html
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Venissa on October 04, 2007, 08:26:57 am
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A good read for parents who worry about there kids.  Not pointing fingers Venissa!!  :)

http://www.w-uh.com/articles/030709-people_over_30.html

Point well taken  :)
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Steve on October 04, 2007, 10:32:58 am
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Children's bodies are more sensitive to extreme temperatures than adults, and therefore have a different reaction when exposed to high temperatures. Small children should not be in a hot tub to begin with, but if they are for some reason, they are at risk of damaging their brain and other parts of their body. When a child's head is immersed underwater, the heat that is absorbed can greatly damage the brain. Because children are already susceptible to risk in a hot tub, it will not take long for injury to occur. A good rule of thumb is to keep small children out of a hot tub altogether. Older children can use a hot tub but only for short periods of time -10 minutes maximum - and should never completely immerse their head underwater.

Hey Venissa,
Welcome to the forum!

For clarification, what is considered "extreme temperatures" as written in your post? Are you suggesting anything higher than the normal body temp?

I agree that children are more susceptible to heat and I agree that no one should immerse their head under water in a hot tub but the rest was generally alarmist.

I want to give you a scenario and get your opinion.

Your 7 year old goes upstairs for a bath... She's been there for 10 minutes and playing around and dunking her head under water... The water temp is 100 degrees. You frantically run upstairs realizing she's sitting in HOT WATER and yank her out and IMMEDIATELY call an ambulance due to the possible brain damage she has suffered.

Would that be accurate in your home? ::)
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: hottubdan on October 04, 2007, 10:38:26 am
Not meaning to pile on, but let's use some critical thinking here.

The article sited did not site any scientific articles.  Any one of us could write our opinion, make it sound factual and it becomes true on the Internet.  Here is who they say they are:

This website is an independent information guide that is written, edited and maintained by Moxy Media, a leading publisher of online consumer information guides. Our goal is to provide factual, up-to-date information and shopping advice to online consumers. This site does not sell products directly and is not affiliated with any individual manufacturer.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Venissa on October 04, 2007, 01:40:47 pm
ok everybody I give  :-/
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Venissa on October 04, 2007, 01:48:32 pm
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Hey Venissa,
Welcome to the forum!

For clarification, what is considered "extreme temperatures" as written in your post? Are you suggesting anything higher than the normal body temp?

I agree that children are more susceptible to heat and I agree that no one should immerse their head under water in a hot tub but the rest was generally alarmist.

I want to give you a scenario and get your opinion.

Your 7 year old goes upstairs for a bath... She's been there for 10 minutes and playing around and dunking her head under water... The water temp is 100 degrees. You frantically run upstairs realizing she's sitting in HOT WATER and yank her out and IMMEDIATELY call an ambulance due to the possible brain damage she has suffered.

Would that be accurate in your home? ::)

Here is my opinion.
If the child is 7 I would not worry......If the child is 2-3 I might be more cautious about letting them play in the hot water.....hot water to us is hotter to their little bodies.
I know.....maybe I am a bit paranoid.  :o
My brother use to play in a hot tub when he was young and I would almost swear he has brain damage  ;D
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Venissa on October 04, 2007, 01:50:43 pm
again.........I give...........for now anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: D.P. Roberts on October 04, 2007, 01:51:59 pm
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ok everybody I give  :-/

Don't "give" yet! I'm sure there IS a safe temperature limit, and a safe time limit. If there wasn't, we wouldn't have the current limit of 104 degrees. There's medical research for all of that - as most of the articles have stated (and I found several more), it's suggested that you "consult your doctor". I think everyone with kids ought to do that. Then you'll know.

And one thing I would do FOR SURE, regardless of what the doctors say - NO DIAPERS in the tub, including "swim diapers". Even if they're old enough, that's a serious sanitary problem in a small body of water the size of a hot tub.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Brookenstein on October 04, 2007, 01:57:23 pm
First off I would be more concerned about a 2 year old drowning in a bath alone for 10 minutes than I would the temperature at 100 degrees.  My kids are 3 and 7.  Back when oldest was littlest the guidelines for bath temps was 100 degrees, that was for a newborn up to a year old.  Anything over 100 and that is when the little ducky would change color and say TOO HOT or that was when the temperature would no longer be readable on the dolphin.  My kids survived the bath, they have survived the hot tub, heck they have survived my cooking, my cleaning, my driving, and my parenting.  I think I'm doing okay!!!!!   :)

Back on track, we've had the tub 2 years, so littlest was 18mo when we got it.  We kept the tub no hotter than 101 when he was in usually between 99-100.  We always took water or capris suns.  He (still) stands on a seat, so only half his body is in the water usually... if he appears warm he sits out for about 2 minutes every 10.  We stay in about 25 minutes on average except in summer, when I try to keep in around 85 (this lasts about 3-5 days after a water change) then they stay in for a couple hours.

Everything in moderation.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: tinybubbles on October 04, 2007, 04:32:20 pm
Don't they have thermometer strips that you stick on your kid's forehead?  You could put one of those on and use it to monitor their body temp.  
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: D.P. Roberts on October 04, 2007, 05:51:36 pm
How about letting your kids get in this hot tub?

1. Kids go out the door across the cover, and off the deck!
2. PLEASE remember which side of the tub you got in on !

How does stuff like this get approved?


(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w49/KJHawley/hottubondeck.jpg)
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Steve on October 04, 2007, 07:30:39 pm
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again.........I give...........for now anyway  ;)


We don't want ya to "give" my dear. Personally, I enjoy your posts as I'm sure many others do. I just wanted to put it in perspective and not let questionable information go without being challenged. It's my nature and it's why I'm so loved 'round these parts! ;)

I think all we're saying is that there needs to be common sense applied instead of a blanket statement of "don't let children in a hot tub or they'll die" sort of thing... ;)

Stick around...you may even enjoy it!

Steve
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Richs100 on October 04, 2007, 10:46:53 pm
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How about letting your kids get in this hot tub?

1. Kids go out the door across the cover, and off the deck!
2. PLEASE remember which side of the tub you got in on !

How does stuff like this get approved?


(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w49/KJHawley/hottubondeck.jpg)

Ok, if this was a "Term Post" I would call BS.  He is very skilled at using that photoshop program.  But it sure looks real.

Speaking as an attorney, I have to say that is one of the most exciting hot tub set-ups I have ever seen.  
Kudos to the designer and to the owner that paid for it.  
And be sure to check that homeowner's policy, cause baby, your gonna need it!
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: D.P. Roberts on October 04, 2007, 11:02:55 pm
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Ok, if this was a "Term Post" I would call BS.  He is very skilled at using that photoshop program.  But it sure looks real.

Speaking as an attorney, I have to say that is one of the most exciting hot tub set-ups I have ever seen.  
Kudos to the designer and to the owner that paid for it.  
And be sure to check that homeowner's policy, cause baby, your gonna need it!


This came from an article called "Home Inspection Nightmares VIII" on CNN, seen here:
http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/photos/0,,20057325,00.html?xid=cnn-1007-nightmares-viii
There's some great stuff in there - Redneck junction boxes, an unusual use for a rusty car jack, and a great electrical installation I'd love to see on my roof. Not to mention the cat in the urinal.
Title: Re: Hot Tub question for ya
Post by: Venissa on October 05, 2007, 08:16:34 am
We go from someone asking about a Jacuzzi Model 365 to a cat in a urinal - Can you imagine this group at a party.  ;D
I love this forum.