Author Topic: Insulation????? (Read 14124 times)

hottbpete · « **on:** August 28, 2006, 05:27:41 pm »

I am getting realyy confused and need some help!!

Some spa reps say that foam insualtion throughout the spa is the best....ie Jacuzzi and Caldera....then you speak to Arctic and they tell you that they do not use foam. That they use a system that uses an air pocket.

Can anyone give me some ideas?

Thanks

Hot Tub Forum · « **on:** August 28, 2006, 05:27:41 pm »

Spatech_tuo · « **Reply #1 on:** August 28, 2006, 05:35:24 pm »

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I am getting realyy confused and need some help!!

Some spa reps say that foam insualtion throughout the spa is the best....ie Jacuzzi and Caldera....then you speak to Arctic and they tell you that they do not use foam. �That they use a system that uses an air pocket.

Can anyone give me some ideas?

Thanks

You should only be confused if they DIDN'T each preach about their own method being the way to go. Stick with a reputable company and you can put the insualtion question in your back pocket and move on to more pressing questions. Fit/feel of the spa (wet testing is wise), warranty, dealer reputation, overall quality and workmanship, cost, appearance and even a simple feeling of trust are all important.

Arctic, Caldera and Jacuzzi are all reputable brands.

NE-Phil · « **Reply #2 on:** August 28, 2006, 05:35:28 pm »

Here we go again!

hottbpete,
This is an old discussion and there are proponents on both sides of the fence, each one telling you that one or the other is the best way to insulate. If you want to see discussions on this, try the "Beating a Dead Horse" forum.
Or you can go directly to http://www.whatsthebest-hottub.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1130608019

My 2� - they both work. Don't worry about it. If you buy a good quality tub, it will be well insulated whichever method is used.

Phil

In Canada eh · « **Reply #3 on:** August 28, 2006, 05:38:47 pm »

Check out the beating a dead horse section on this site

This has been gone over and over and over and over and over and over etc. etc. etc.(I think you can get the picture)

Basically there is no right answer, Coke vs. Pepsi
   Chevy vs. Ford
   Titelist vs. Nike
   etc. etc. etc.

Spatech_tuo · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2006, 05:41:28 pm »

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Basically there is no right answer, � Coke vs. Pepsi
   � �Chevy vs. Ford
   � �Titelist vs. Nike
   � � etc. etc. etc.

Pepsi, Chevy and Titlist!!!
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In Canada eh · « **Reply #5 on:** August 28, 2006, 05:47:37 pm »

Spatech

Did I spell the golf ball name wrong or did you

grumpy · « **Reply #6 on:** August 28, 2006, 05:51:18 pm »

FORD, Captain n coke

Dr. Spa� Ret. · « **Reply #7 on:** August 28, 2006, 05:55:55 pm »

BMW vodka seadoo

In Canada eh · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2006, 06:00:26 pm »

This is turning into a much better debate then FF vs TP

Ford, Southern Manhatens and Nike

Gary · « **Reply #9 on:** August 28, 2006, 06:38:13 pm »

Where is the only place you see an air pocket (besides some spas) for insulation? The only one I can think of is a window. I guess the foam would ruin the view. That should tell you something.

Dr. Spa� Ret. · « **Reply #10 on:** August 28, 2006, 06:53:20 pm »

Dual pane windows are the most ridiculous analogy possible to use. A single sheet of glass is something like R-1. Dual panes are something like R-4. So you get double the insulation value of just the glass. What's the insulation value of a wall? More than R-12. R-12 is just the insulation (minimum) and doesn't take into consideration siding or sheet rock.

IDW · « **Reply #11 on:** August 28, 2006, 07:18:46 pm »

The best thing about full foam is that it holds all the plumbing in place. Fill a 2" line with water and its heavy. You can not expect a glue joint to hold it for 10 years or more.
The best thing about dead air insulation is that it keeps coffee warm in your thermas. I think it is impossible to have dead air in a spa cabinet.

Dr. Spa� Ret. · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2006, 07:31:20 pm »

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The best thing about dead air insulation is that it keeps coffee warm in your thermas. I think it is impossible to have dead air in a spa cabinet.

Actually, a thermos is more than an air space.......... no, it almost the opposite. It's a space evacuated of any air. A vacuum. Conductivity and convection is the the method of the majority of heat loss and heat can neither conduct nor convect across a vacuum. It can though radiate across a vacuum.......

Oh, by the way, the definition of a "dead air space" is less that 1/2". Any greater and it's NOT "dead" as convection will occur.

Joel T · « **Reply #13 on:** August 28, 2006, 07:31:45 pm »

Unarguably Ford 'Mustang GT', Southern 'Comfort' and barefoot.

TN__HOT_TUB · « **Reply #14 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:36:32 am »

Let's see......I'm going with Ford, Bourbon, Coke, Callaway & "Tastes Great"

Hot Tub Forum · « **Reply #14 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:36:32 am »

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