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Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsburgh
« on: April 27, 2006, 05:19:13 pm »
This company is related to (owned by wife) Larry Barasch formerly a guest of the NJ Corrections Department and former owner of Great Feelings Spas.

He has posted on this board in the past.

He was convicted of failing to remit NJ Sales tax collected on his companies sales.

His company went bankrupt after taking 50-100% deposits from 118 consumers.

Please make your own decisions.

Please review the following:

http://www.allbusiness.com/periodicals/article/616261-1.html

http://www.corporations.state.pa.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?2145517





Published in the Asbury Park Press 7/24/02

Defense documents say Larry Barasch is a businessman who had to declare
bankruptcy, not a criminal.

By ELAINE SILVESTRINI

FREEHOLD BUREAU

FREEHOLD -- A spa salesman accused of defrauding dozens of customers by
taking their
money and then declaring bankruptcy is asking a judge to dismiss an
indictment on
grounds the prosecution is illegally using the criminal courts to circumvent
bankruptcy laws.

Larry Barasch, 45, owner and president of Great Feeling Spas in Marlboro,
was indicted in
March on charges of theft and tax evasion.

Authorities alleged that between June 1 and Nov. 30, 2001, Barasch collected
nearly
$400,000 from approximately 60 customers as payment for spas and hot tubs
that he never
ordered. Barasch then declared bankruptcy when it came time for the
merchandise to be

delivered.

But in a brief filed with Superior Court Judge Patricia Del Bueno Cleary for
a motion
scheduled to be heard in September, Barasch's lawyer, Scott F. Griffith,
said the defendant
fell into financial difficulties as a result of a severe dropoff in business
following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and because of a sudden demand on
the part of the state Division of
Taxation that he immediately pay more than $150,000 in back taxes that he
had been
working to pay over time.

The tax demand forced Barasch to file for bankruptcy, according to the
defense brief: "The
officials from the Division of Taxation emphasised strongly that if Mr.
Barasch did not seek
bankruptcy protection, the state was prepared to close down the business and
seize all
assets. Six days later, on Nov. 21, 2001, Mr. Barasch filed for bankruptcy
in an effort to
reorganize and restructure his tax obligations and to enable him to satisfy
his customers."

The defense asserts that Barasch, as someone who has filed for bankruptcy,
"is entitled to
an automatic stay against certain claims against him. The purpose of the
stay is to save the
debtor from harassment inflicted upon him by his creditors. In this case,
the state is
improperly using its criminal laws to circumvent the bankruptcy code in an
effort to seek
reprisals and harass Mr. Barasch on behalf of dissatisfied creditors of
Great Feelings
Spas."

The brief paints Barasch as a victim of overzealous customers, his spa
supplier in
California, the state and the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office, which the
defense
describes as ignoring clear evidence that Barasch was not acting
fraudulently.

"The indictment," the defense maintains, "should be dismissed because it was
fundamentally unfair for the state to bring an indictment against Mr.
Barasch and then to
present misleading evidence to the grand jury. Moreover, the state's conduct
in indicting Mr.
Barasch rises to the level of prosecutorial misconduct because their use of
false and
misleading evidence before the grand jury rendered the proceedings
fundamentally unfair."

Griffith cites testimony relating to an e-mail sent by
Matawan Councilwoman Sharon Roselli

to the Prosecutor's Office, in which she bemoans being a
victim of Barasch's "scheme."

Grand jurors were not told, according to the defense, that
Roselli actually received a spa and

gazebo before the grand jury convened.

Contacted yesterday, Roselli confirmed the defense depiction
of her situation. She said she

sent the e-mail after reading a newspaper account of the
case.

"I thought I had been ripped off," she said. "I've got to
tell you the truth. I have no complaints

about the gentleman, other than the fact that the warrantees
that were supposed to be

honored after the spa was delivered weren't honored. Delivery
was fine. The installation was

as planned."

She said Barasch actually delivered the spa nearly two months
earlier than he was

obligated. "I was quite happy," she said.


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Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsburgh
« on: April 27, 2006, 05:19:13 pm »

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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2006, 05:34:51 pm »
That is horrible ...but it is 4 to 5 years old....why is it important today....?.....are they still doing business...

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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2006, 05:50:13 pm »
He got out of jail moved to Pittsburgh and opened up as HandyGuy of Pittsburgh and will fix or install your spa or build you a deck or lose your money inadvertently in any number of ways.

By the way it took 2 years to put him in jail he was there for a year plus till now.

Bankruptcy court still has the lousy $400 - which is all I will ever get back of my $6,400 and is in no hurrry to send even that to me.

Cal Spa still has not done anything to help even though they told the NYC channel 2 "Shame on You" that they would be selling to us very cheap just to keep their name out of the story.  So in addition to making cr***y tubs they are lying skunks.

Moral of the story pay on delivery, pay with a credit card.

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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2006, 08:54:24 pm »
unfortuneately people cannot refuse a GOOD DEAL no matter how bad it stinks.

There's still ONE(s_cker) born every minute, and slimeballs to capitalize on it.

It gives the whole industry a bad name and it P_sses me off. 2 cents, sorry.
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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2006, 09:04:49 am »
Dead on proof that you need to check out you dealer.


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Pool Boy - I agree - Drewstar I did check but ...
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2006, 12:09:50 pm »
I admit it, I was an idiot to pay in advance bycheck or cash.

I did check him out - in business for 13 years, nothing listed at the BBB (turns out he was very good at keeping things in dispute and unresolved so that there would be no releaseable record).

This was a planned "bust out" - raised "salary" to $5k per week and changed contract to say 120 days till delivery before refund (worse case - just there incase of strikes etc) then stopped all deliveries...

Went officially bankrupt on 120th day - so as to claim he was never in violation.

Cal Spa had so many inquiries about orders that were submitted (but not funded - they had him on fund before build) that they even wrote him threatening his dealership.

Nevertheless CalSPa said nothing in response to inquiries.  They screwed us before the bankruptcy, promised us sales "at cost" pubicly then never delivered.

They are not as culpable as Larry & Anne Barasch now of Pittsburgh but they added they supplied the lube and then insulted us (118 screwees).

PAY NOTHING IN ADVANCE

USE A CREDIT CARD

DEMAND REFUND OF MONIES PAID (IF YOU DID) AFTER DELIVER BY DATE MISSED BY ONE DATE.

I know that that can make life more complicated for you dealers but if you are in control of your business and well funded there should be no problem - make it a sales advantage - have your customers contact me if they do not understand how important that is!!!!

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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2006, 10:48:41 am »
Funny thing, if you search google for The HandyGuy of Pittsburgh, their website only comes up #2

*sigh*...... more legal threats against me.
If you can't sell it on eBay, it may not even qualify as landfill.

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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2006, 12:48:45 pm »
Help me out here: in California, I think you would get calls from the California State Contractor's Licensing Board if you put up a web site like that. Don't you need a contractors license to do jobs of the size and scope he is advertising?

I'm looking at decks, porches that look like room additions, big stuff!

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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2006, 01:05:38 pm »
I thought the same thing as I looked over his site this morning. Possibly things are different there in PA?

Regardless, I still have some lady screaming liable lawsuit at me.

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Help me out here: in California, I think you would get calls from the California State Contractor's Licensing Board if you put up a web site like that. Don't you need a contractors license to do jobs of the size and scope he is advertising?

I'm looking at decks, porches that look like room additions, big stuff!

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If you can't sell it on eBay, it may not even qualify as landfill.

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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2006, 05:44:42 pm »
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Dead on proof that you need to check out you dealer.


 



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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2006, 06:25:22 pm »
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I still have some lady screaming liable lawsuit at me.

Usually the louder they yell the less chance they'll follow through. BUT:
I'm here for you Andy. If you end up in jail, just say the word and I'll come over and pick up your Car and Jetskis. We all know how important it is to keep those running regularly.  And don't thank me, I'm glad to do it.
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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2006, 07:16:04 pm »
Such a pal you are Chas. You da man!
If you can't sell it on eBay, it may not even qualify as landfill.

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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2006, 07:27:06 pm »
K, Chas you get the car and jet skis, I get the truck and camper.   :)

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Re: Consider before using: The HandyGuy of Pittsbu
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2006, 09:40:14 pm »
ya'll wont mind if I keep the soap on a rope?
If you can't sell it on eBay, it may not even qualify as landfill.

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