Sundance Filters

[luvin_tubin_sqezin]

How big is 5 microns anyway?

Approximately half the thickness of a human hair.  

[luvin_tubin_sqezin]

SanDiego,
We have had customers averaging about 10 - 11 months on the MicroClean II. The MicroClean II is one piece blue filter ($100 here at my store).

Brewman has the MicroClean I, which is the 2 piece system.

Luvin,
You have neither, if you have an '05 Bahia you have the 125 sq. ft. pleated filter. If cleaned every 4 - 6 weeks it should last a couple of years or more.

Skellman,
You are not gullible for believing that, 'cause it's true!!
It's not that they don't have to be cleaned, it's that you can't clean them. A traditional filter is "surface loading" so you can clean the surface. The MicroClean is "depth loading" (the particulants are trapped inside the filter) so cleaning the surface will do you little good.

Hope I helped.

I echo the thanks.  Good info.  I do realize what filter I have but my issue is that on at least 4 web sites, the filter they show for my tub ISN'T the one that's in there now, even docs site.  Not sure why no one can get it right?  

[Spatech_tuo]

I don't want to start a flame war here but I agree with spatech. I wanted a Sundace Optima but didn't like the idea of throwing away a $100 filter. I guess there's always compromises in life. I have to clean five Tri-X filters in my HS spa. For some that may be a downside, but for me it hasn't been an issue yet. By the way, what micron level are the Tri-X filters rated at?

There is no right and wrong here. Some would prefer the disposable for it's ease of use and if that's the case and they don't mind the cost, more power to them. I'd just prefer to clean and reuse rather than toss away, plus I'm a coupon clipping type of guy so it would be a double whammy for me.

With a regular filter you should have no issue getting 2½ years use from your filter with a replacement cost of about $50. Over that same time frame you'd spend about $300 on disposable filters (assuming they last about 9 months at $90 per filter). I certainly can see both sides so this certainly isn't a case of which way is best but rather which way each person prefers.

[tony]

I don't want to start a flame war here but I agree with spatech. I wanted a Sundace Optima but didn't like the idea of throwing away a $100 filter. I guess there's always compromises in life.

You don't have to use the Microclean II filter.  You could always use a conventional pleated filter and clean it.

[Spatech_tuo]

You don't have to use the Microclean II filter.  You could always use a conventional pleated filter and clean it.

Very good, that's what I was wondering.

[Gomboman]

A Tri-X filter can filter down to how many microns?

[Gomboman]

A Tri-X filter can filter down to how many microns?

Does anyone know the answer to this?

[Ronnie526]

SpaTech .... I have an '05 Optima.  It came with the blue Microclean(?) filter.  My dealer sells both the Microclean replacement filter (app $100), and also a paper pleated filter (app $70).  Only thing I would add to this topic is that my original Microclean filter collapsed after about 1 month.  I'm assuming that it was because there was a LOT of stuff in my original fill water, including about a quadruple dose of liquid aroma, which probably plugged the filter & excess suction from trying to pull through it, collapsed it.  No water quality problems whatsoever, tho, in the 8 months I've had the tub, so I'm not too concerned!

[anne]

Though hymba stated the MCII is the ONLY filter, I thought I read somewhere that there was an alternative.  Can anyone else confirm?



AP

There is a company called Micropure- they make a similar thing, but I have no idea if it would fit Sundance. Supposedly filter down to one micron, last 3-5 months and cost $25-30.

[hymbaw]

Anne,
I believe they are refering to the 125 sq. ft. traditional pleated filter that Sundance used in the past. They are the same size as the Microclean II, so they do fit. They are not reccomended.

[Spatech_tuo]

Anne,
I believe they are refering to the 125 sq. ft. traditional pleated filter that Sundance used in the past. They are the same size as the Microclean II, so they do fit. They are not reccomended.

Why aren't they recommended if they fit. Didn't they filter just fine previously? I thought that was a perfectly fine alternative if you don't want to be buying new filters every 9 months for $90 (therefore $10/month on disposable filters when you can use a traditional one for about 3 yrs at about $2/month)?

Am I misinterpreting something?

[hymbaw]

The tubs weren't designed for them. That should be enough for you, but I have a feeling it's not.

How about the fact that the circ. pump runs at 35 GPM as opposed to 5 GPM. Instead of cleaning your filter every 6 weeks you would have to clean it every 6 DAYS!

[Spatech_tuo]

The tubs weren't designed for them. That should be enough for you, but I have a feeling it's not.

How about the fact that the circ. pump runs at 35 GPM as opposed to 5 GPM. Instead of cleaning your filter every 6 weeks you would have to clean it every 6 DAYS!

I have ZERO issue with the micron filter other than the disposable part.  I'm not sure how the the regular filter would not be sufficient if the extra flow from the circ pump was too much for it I think the micron filter would have a problem first. Then again, you should know your product better than I. Too bad they can't make those micron fitlers so they can be cleaned and reused.

[SerjicalStrike]

The pleated filter was designed with 2 parts.  1 section for the ciirculation pump, and one for the 2 speed pump.  

The new filter has only 1 pump pulling through it because the filtration is totally separated from the main pump system.  That pump will pull unevenly through the filter because of how it is seaparated.  That is why it is not reccomended.

[hymbaw]

Too bad they can't make those micron fitlers so they can be cleaned and reused.

The Microclean filter are "depth loading"(capturing particles all the way through the filter media) A pleated filter is "surface loading" (capturing particles on the surface)

You can clean the surface of a filter. I agree, it would be nice if you could clean the depths of a filter.

Until we figure out how, you just have to toss them.