Sundance Filters

[sandiego]

There has been some discussion about the Sundacne filters in my market, and I wanted to see if I could get some straight information from some of you.

What is the cost for replacement of their new filter? Isn't it $90 or something like that? And how often are you supposed to replace it? I've heard that they are telling people it's every 12 months. Is that true?

[luvin_tubin_sqezin]

There has been some discussion about the Sundacne filters in my market, and I wanted to see if I could get some straight information from some of you.

What is the cost for replacement of their new filter? Isn't it $90 or something like that? And how often are you supposed to replace it? I've heard that they are telling people it's every 4 months. Is that true?

My dealer (sundance bahia 05) said the filters should last a year if correct maintenance is done on them and the water.  

The cost???  I'm trying to find that out now (see previous post!..can't seem to find the correct replacement filter).

[Brewman]

I'm assuming that SanDiego is asking about the new Sundance microfilter- the one that is disposable, not a standard, re-usable pleated filter.   I think the call it Microclean II.  If that's the one, I've heard that they're supposed to go up to a year.  But I've seen posts that indicate they may not last quite that long.
And yes, they cost about $90.  

My 2003 spa uses their dual filter- a standard pleated filter with an attached smaller microfilter.  This microfilter is about $15, and is supposed to be replaced 3 or 4 times per year.  Is this the filter you might be thinking of that gets replace each 90 days?

Some people just do away with those, and put in an equivalent sized standard pleated filter.  

[Skellman]

In my research of a 06' Optima, the dealer told me that the filters don't even need to be cleaned.
And they would last at least 1 year.
Am I being gullible in believing that?

[hymbaw]

SanDiego,
We have had customers averaging about 10 - 11 months on the MicroClean II. The MicroClean II is one piece blue filter ($100 here at my store).

Brewman has the MicroClean I, which is the 2 piece system.

Luvin,
You have neither, if you have an '05 Bahia you have the 125 sq. ft. pleated filter. If cleaned every 4 - 6 weeks it should last a couple of years or more.

Skellman,
You are not gullible for believing that, 'cause it's true!!
It's not that they don't have to be cleaned, it's that you can't clean them. A traditional filter is "surface loading" so you can clean the surface. The MicroClean is "depth loading" (the particulants are trapped inside the filter) so cleaning the surface will do you little good.

Hope I helped.

[sandiego]

SanDiego,
We have had customers averaging about 10 - 11 months on the MicroClean II. The MicroClean II is one piece blue filter ($100 here at my store).

Brewman has the MicroClean I, which is the 2 piece system.

Luvin,
You have neither, if you have an '05 Bahia you have the 125 sq. ft. pleated filter. If cleaned every 4 - 6 weeks it should last a couple of years or more.

Skellman,
You are not gullible for believing that, 'cause it's true!!
It's not that they don't have to be cleaned, it's that you can't clean them. A traditional filter is "surface loading" so you can clean the surface. The MicroClean is "depth loading" (the particulants are trapped inside the filter) so cleaning the surface will do you little good.

Hope I helped.

Thanks for the info, I was referring to the new microclean II filters.

$100 a year sounds awful expense though, when you get typically get a good 3 years out of a regular filter.

Do you use Baqua in your spas? Because I've also heard that those will clog the filters up much faster...

[hymbaw]

The 125 sq. ft. pleated filters Sundance used before the MicroClean system run about $80 (if you buy 2 so you can rotate them, $160), plus filter cleaner degreaser, plus another thing on your "to do" list, plus time time and hassle (what's your time worth?) I like the idea of just tossing your filter out when it's time. But that's just me.

AND....................Filters down to 5 micron particle as opposed to a 30 micron particle in a traditional filter. So CLEANER WATER

I don't use, sell, or generally like biguinide systems so I can't comment on how they work out with the MicroClean system.

[sandiego]

The 125 sq. ft. pleated filters Sundance used before the MicroClean system run about $80 (if you buy 2 so you can rotate them, $160), plus filter cleaner degreaser, plus another thing on your "to do" list, plus time time and hassle (what's your time worth?) I like the idea of just tossing your filter out when it's time. But that's just me.

AND....................Filters down to 5 micron particle as opposed to a 30 micron particle in a traditional filter. So CLEANER WATER

I don't use, sell, or generally like biguinide systems so I can't comment on how they work out with the MicroClean system.

Thanks for the info....

[Spatech_tuo]

Thanks for the info, I was referring to the new microclean II filters.

$100 a year sounds awful expense though, when you get typically get a good 3 years out of a regular filter.

Do you use Baqua in your spas? Because I've also heard that those will clog the filters up much faster...

I'm with you on that. Unfortunately we're in a "throw away society" where companies are always coming up with disposable products like that is some kind of improvement (these may filter fine, I just have an issue with the "throw away and buy a new one" part of this equation). I know persoanlly I'd have a hard time justifying to myself that I need to get a new $90 filter every 6 to 12 months.

I wonder if you choose to not replace the microclean II filter and just let the regular filter do the work?

[hymbaw]

I wonder if you choose to not replace the microclean II filter and just let the regular filter do the work?

The MicroClean II is the ONLY filter on the 880 series tubs.

[alwaysperky]

Hi Sandiego,

I got my Optima last August and the MC II filter lasted me about 6 months.  I use Baqua.  I paid about $90 bucks.

Though hymba stated the MCII is the ONLY filter, I thought I read somewhere that there was an alternative.  Can anyone else confirm?

Good Luck!

AP

[Spatech_tuo]

Though hymba stated the MCII is the ONLY filter, I thought I read somewhere that there was an alternative.  Can anyone else confirm?

I also thought there was an alternative standard filter you could substitue for those who aren't thrilled with having to get a new $90 one every 6 months.

[Brewman]

 I'm not sure that those filter are all that much more expensive than what I'm doing with my spa, which has the first generation microfilters.  

I spend $60 per year on the throw away microfilters.
Plus another $30 or so on filter cleaner.  There's $90 right there, plus the cost of making several trips per year to my spa dealer to pick them up- call it $12 for gas for the 4 trips.  
Add in the amortized cost of the pleated filter- those cost about $60 and last maybe 3 years, so it averages out to $20 per year.  

So I can say I spend maybe $120 per year on filter stuff.
If you can get 9 months out of one of those $90 Microclean II filters, it's about the same as I'm paying.
And you eliminate the hassle of cleaning the filters.

Of course swapping to just a pleated filter would be cheaper than either of those options.  

And a pleated filter is available for both systems to eliminate the toss out filters.

[alwaysperky]

How big is 5 microns anyway?

[Gomboman]

I don't want to start a flame war here but I agree with spatech. I wanted a Sundace Optima but didn't like the idea of throwing away a $100 filter. I guess there's always compromises in life. I have to clean five Tri-X filters in my HS spa. For some that may be a downside, but for me it hasn't been an issue yet. By the way, what micron level are the Tri-X filters rated at?

I'm with you on that. Unfortunately we're in a "throw away society" where companies are always coming up with disposable products like that is some kind of improvement (these may filter fine, I just have an issue with the "throw away and buy a new one" part of this equation). I know persoanlly I'd have a hard time justifying to myself that I need to get a new $90 filter every 6 to 12 months.

I wonder if you choose to not replace the microclean II filter and just let the regular filter do the work?