I wet tested the piper last november and it is an awesome tub. However the best the dealer would do was 11800 without the sound system everything else included. I also wet tested artic tundra, hot springs, D1, and royal. We rated the piper the best out of all of the above but i just could'nt pull the trigger. I kept shopping for a better price and discovered any top brand is going to give you alot of enjoyment. I settled for a Gulf Coast 1100 XL. Sure it doesn't have a pump for every seat but it has all the features, powerful pumps, and a great track record for less than half the cost of the piper glen. 5395.00. Possibly if the dealer had presented 10500 for the piper.