OMG, thats is awful, this one is actually on ebay near me looked good, but if I need help looks like I'm on my own. I want a Vanguard but don't have the 8,500 the local dealer wants, would rather buy a used one for 1,000 just to start then upgrade in a few years. Theres also a nice Sundance which I know is a good brand. Dude thanks for the heads up though you just saved me a headache.