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Oh, and Bill - it's Arctic with a c.
JcOh, and Bill - it's Arctic with a c. If people are going to bash the brand it would be nice if they at least spelled it right! I've always found it interesting how so many people can know so much about a product yet don't know enough to spell it correctly.
This is where threads will be moved that turn in to the same old hashing of FF vs TP, Master's Spa Shows, Artic Martketing, etc, etc.
Oh, and Bill - it's Arctic with a c. If people are going to bash the brand it would be nice if they at least spelled it right! I've always found it interesting how so many people can know so much about a product yet don't know enough to spell it correctly.
Of course not. The comment was meant for those who wish to take offense in the future. This would more than likely not include yourself.Jc
Here's one question that you can try and get answered as I have never been able to.They rely so heavily on the pumps keeping this empty space within the spa heated in the brutal cold of Northern Ontario.That being said, when, in your mind, do the pumps generate a great deal of heat? I'll give you this one...when they are running on high speed. So, assuming you are using your spa and hour a day, everyday (which is VERY high usage), then what is keeping that empty cabinet warm for the other 23 hours per day at -30 C when those pumps are not running at all or on a low, circulation speed?We know these spas are not 100% thermally sealed and any reputable Arctic salesperson will agree. They need to cool the pumps as well as inject air into that cabinet for air injection into the jets.Ask that one question to your salesman and I'd love to hear the response if you get it. I've never had an Arctic salesperson that could clearly explain this to me in all the years. Thanks.Steve
As for the question about a sealed cabinet, it is not air tight, (If you want I would be more than happy to cram you in a cabinet and see if you sufficate.)
Steve, this question you raise about the pumps is not that hard of a question, it is like every other conversation with you about Arctic, you try make your points by blurring the facts and wording things in your favor.
You are always critical about Arctic's marketing of their product, Yet I see that HydroPool markets things like putting a piece of plastic over the piping before they foam over it as a selling point,
self cleaning not really any different than tubs with bottom suction, except for the marketing of it.
The problem with your question, and why you do not get it answered is that you don't agree with or understand how the insulation design works. (That is fine).
The pumps do not keep the air space warm- the water does!
Whatever heat (even if it is just small amounts through out the day during the filtering cycles) Is used not wasted to help retain air space and water temp. Unlike a HydroPool the heat from the pumps is not blocked from the water by insulation nor is the heat from the water blocked from heating the air space. The pump heat is just a bonus!!
Steve, there is a point we are going to both have to agree on if we want to get your question answered. I will ask you a question so we can see if we agree . 1) Do you believe a hydroPool retains heat better then an Arctic. (While the pumps are off) I believe they would be very similar.
Steve, think about how a TP is built.....blah, blah, blah