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Just got back from the local Artesian dealer here in MI. The quality of the tub looked great in that the motors were mounted on rubber grommets, hose clamps similar to Marquis plumbing, fully adjustable jets, dealer was friendly and no high pressure anything. Then I found the frame staples. Crap. Some of the staples weren't even fully seated. No 2x4's to be seen. I am not even going to bother with a wet test. I realize staples are cheaper than bolts and the corporate dollar rules but I refuse to buy a hot tub with a stapled frame. May Manufacturing could easily do better.