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What is the most comfortable spa? I'd start there. Not sidestepping the question. I'll leave discussion on pricing, etc. to others. Point is - this is a 15 year decision and it starts with comfort. What is a few months on a spa in terms of wait time if it is the *right* spa in terms of ergonomics and comfort, compared to the 15 years of ownership? Feel tops all. Whatever feels the best tends to be the best spa for you, regardless of the brand. I hope this helps. Good luck moving forward.
Hot Spring prices are insanely low.
Quote from: The Wizard of Spas on December 02, 2020, 05:12:22 pmWhat is the most comfortable spa? I'd start there. Not sidestepping the question. I'll leave discussion on pricing, etc. to others. Point is - this is a 15 year decision and it starts with comfort. What is a few months on a spa in terms of wait time if it is the *right* spa in terms of ergonomics and comfort, compared to the 15 years of ownership? Feel tops all. Whatever feels the best tends to be the best spa for you, regardless of the brand. I hope this helps. Good luck moving forward.Thank you for this reminder. In this current world of short supply, we were unable to sit in any of the Sundance Spas: we would be buying blind, which feels completely insane for a $10k purchase. The HotSpring we liked most in our price point was next August. I think, if that is what it's down to, I would take a flyer on something used I could sit in before buying vs. waiting until next August. Is the general feeling that the HotSpring prices are about right or too high? We were comfortable in all the hotspring spas except I wasn't fond of the beam.
Quote from: kiva on December 02, 2020, 05:40:17 pmQuote from: The Wizard of Spas on December 02, 2020, 05:12:22 pmWhat is the most comfortable spa? I'd start there. Not sidestepping the question. I'll leave discussion on pricing, etc. to others. Point is - this is a 15 year decision and it starts with comfort. What is a few months on a spa in terms of wait time if it is the *right* spa in terms of ergonomics and comfort, compared to the 15 years of ownership? Feel tops all. Whatever feels the best tends to be the best spa for you, regardless of the brand. I hope this helps. Good luck moving forward.Thank you for this reminder. In this current world of short supply, we were unable to sit in any of the Sundance Spas: we would be buying blind, which feels completely insane for a $10k purchase. The HotSpring we liked most in our price point was next August. I think, if that is what it's down to, I would take a flyer on something used I could sit in before buying vs. waiting until next August. Is the general feeling that the HotSpring prices are about right or too high? We were comfortable in all the hotspring spas except I wasn't fond of the beam.No way to type this without sounding like a brat so please know at all of this comes from a place of good faith and isn't at all meant to sound bratty. . . This could be a 15 year commitment. You don't want to "buy blind" based on that 10 month wait time, but based on that same wait time, you'd consider buying something used. I feel like that is just as big of a gamble or similar to buying blind, as you put it. I'd wager many would agree.The point is: Over the course of 15 years, would you rather have the thing that feels the best to you, or something you got b/c you just couldn't wait a few more months for the thing you wanted? Patience is really hard when you have money to burn on a luxury item. Totally get it. Also - You have to do what is best for you and your family. But why not buy what you want, use the 10 months wait time to save for the little extra you're paying, and be totally happy? 10 months will be over before you know it and the a year from owning the odds are you'll be terribly satisfied. Make sense? Again - hope this came off correctly and not jerky.
Kiva,I am fairly confident that there’s consensus from the various dealers/spa techs here, that Bullfrog would be included amongst the ‘top tier’ spa manufacturers. Strong spas on the other hand, is unlikely to be ranked above a third tier product, and would be closely associated with mass merchandisers big box offerings. (Home Depot, among them).Watkins (conglomerate owner of Hot Springs, Caldera & others) manufactures spas for big box retailer; Costco, under the Aquaterra label. Immediate qualitative differences in shell/cabinet construction, gaudy lighting, reliance on small-diameter jetting to boost ‘jet count’ ...all jump out and demand notice of the discriminating shopper, whom has been exposed to samples of top tier products.I considered the Bullfrog X5L, R5L and A5L, as they have wrist jets either as a standard feature, or an available option. The relatively (to me) low jet pressure in both jet packs for neck/shoulders, was the determining factor in moving on to other spas. I like the plumbing theory that BF spas utilize, I do concur with others that the modular jet pack assemblies do place limits on sculpted curves designed into the seat molds. Even the D1 Spas Triad with massage sequencer (2.5 continuous hp pump) is still too weak, to my taste (HS Aria’s quartet jets were better) ...but looks like my best option for 2020 in a small 250-ish gallon spa with wrist jets.
The Price on the sovereign is insanely low. Especially with tax included? I'm closer to $13 without tax