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Can you wet test any Bullfrogs? I’m taking it you liked he Marquis better then the Sundance based on wet test? All 3 make great tubs go with the one that fits you best
I had a Caldera that had lots of issues/leaks. Light leaked a few times. Ozonator leaked and stopped functioning. Shell began to form bubbles on it.My brother got the identical tub at the same time and had the same issues.Caldera replaced both entire tubs but even my 2nd one had issues. This was about 10 years agoNow I have a Bullfrog...just got it last Oct but no issues yet. Not saying its any better or worse for reliability just my experience.
I looked at all 3, wet tested BF and Sundance, and ended up going with the Optima. I found the Optima's jets to be the strongest, and loved the foot dome and filtration, both were better on the Sundance were better than Bullfrog.I paid 12,200 for it out the door, so you should be able to get a better price assuming you're not getting the built in stereo.
Quote from: Thisismyname on September 18, 2018, 12:00:25 pmI had a Caldera that had lots of issues/leaks. Light leaked a few times. Ozonator leaked and stopped functioning. Shell began to form bubbles on it.My brother got the identical tub at the same time and had the same issues.Caldera replaced both entire tubs but even my 2nd one had issues. This was about 10 years agoNow I have a Bullfrog...just got it last Oct but no issues yet. Not saying its any better or worse for reliability just my experience.Not a single one of the issues listed has anything to do with less or more plumbing.
It came down to the combination of the horizontal filter (i felt like it has higher surface area and catches more debris) and the UV light, which sundance has and bullfrog does not.
That wasn't meant as an attack on you or your decision. I just see a lot of companies misrepresent exactly what the UV system does and does not do. I also think that the difference between 1 and 3 ppm doesn't change much in the end because many customers start off adding too little chlorine for their bather load because most people seem to want lower chlorine levels. This inevitably leads to water quality issues which most certainly get resolved by adding more chlorine. The end result is that most people end up about 3ppm to avoid cloudy water. Additionally, I've sold thousands of spas with UV systems and Ozone systems. I would estimate that about 5% end up purchasing a replacement bulb or ozone chip after the estimated life expectancy. This tells me that these things will stop working at some point and either the customer doesn't even realize it or they determined it's not worth it. I've specifically had this discussion with a Sundance salesperson who has had a very similar experience.Again, not trying to attack you or your decision. My intention was to point out what I believe is mostly noise in a lot of sales pitches and make it easier for people to distill things down. Most people find this process overwhelming with so much conflicting information. I think that the difference between a reputable manufacturers water treatment system is pretty negligible in the end. They all have a system that works pretty well. I think you are better of assuming that and focusing on how the hot tub feels, fits, meets your budget, and comfort with a dealer.Take that for what it's. I've been doing this for 23 years and genuinely post here to provide information to confused customers on a subject that I am very experienced in. A subject that I often hear is overwhelming to the consumer. I really like Sundance spas. I was not bashing them.