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For some reason and I’m not a chemist this Active Oxygen claim made with diamonds in the electrode, they call OH made from H2O and different from O2 or ozone O3 just doesn’t set well. The claim as I understand it is they convert the salt in the water into chlorine and they also crack the water into this OH similar to electrolysis where you would get hydrogen and oxygen. The oxygen acts like a non chlorine shock being produced at the same time as the chlorine sanitizer. That leaves hydrogen left behind as a gas in a sealed up hot tub. Something doesn’t seem correct with all this. I will have to talk it over with some of my chemist friends and see what they think. Bottom line for me is chlorine is what I want made and I want it dispensed slowly and when I’m away from the tub for a week or more at a time. It is easy to add dichlor also but it should be done daily. I tend to shock when needed once a week max and every other week min. Dichlor has way more stabilizer than I need and why now I switch to liquid after a few weeks of dichlor. Dichlor is fairly cheap and liquid bleach is very cheap. Salt is super cheap. For me salt conversion is for ease of maintaining the tub and the added feel of bathing in salt water. The ACE measuring the salt level is nice I think some of the new after markets are measuring and adjusting levels based on usage and demand. Those are nice features, and some people might be willing to pay the price for that.
Quote from: bud16415 on April 17, 2018, 11:33:31 amFor some reason and I’m not a chemist this Active Oxygen claim made with diamonds in the electrode, they call OH made from H2O and different from O2 or ozone O3 just doesn’t set well. The claim as I understand it is they convert the salt in the water into chlorine and they also crack the water into this OH similar to electrolysis where you would get hydrogen and oxygen. The oxygen acts like a non chlorine shock being produced at the same time as the chlorine sanitizer. That leaves hydrogen left behind as a gas in a sealed up hot tub. Something doesn’t seem correct with all this. I will have to talk it over with some of my chemist friends and see what they think. Bottom line for me is chlorine is what I want made and I want it dispensed slowly and when I’m away from the tub for a week or more at a time. It is easy to add dichlor also but it should be done daily. I tend to shock when needed once a week max and every other week min. Dichlor has way more stabilizer than I need and why now I switch to liquid after a few weeks of dichlor. Dichlor is fairly cheap and liquid bleach is very cheap. Salt is super cheap. For me salt conversion is for ease of maintaining the tub and the added feel of bathing in salt water. The ACE measuring the salt level is nice I think some of the new after markets are measuring and adjusting levels based on usage and demand. Those are nice features, and some people might be willing to pay the price for that. My experience in selling and servicing the ACE system for the last 8 years... People don't purchase it because it's cheap... or because they want to save money. No way. In fact, I tell them straight up, it's the most expensive way to go in maintaining their hot tub, outside of Silk Balance probably.Yet people spend $600 a year easy on Silk Balance, $850 for a cell every 2-3 years seems cheap If you are about cost effective sanitization, stay away from ACE. You won't be able to sell yourself. It's more about the experience with it. I'll be honest, I've had ACE on my personal tub coming up on 4 years. I don't necessarily see myself switching unless something better comes along. I love it. My wife loves it <-- more important. I HAVEN'T replaced my cell yet... but I am anticipating soon. I leave ozone in my tub, leave output around 2 (maybe 3,) and I have an on the go water softener to keep calcium level low.
If you do not want to add the ACE Salt Generation option to a Hotsprings tub is it possible to utilize chlorine as a sanitizer and add a mineral supplement to give the water a silky feeling? I'm looking for recommendations and peoples experiences.
Quote from: Aquatub88 on April 23, 2018, 09:47:15 pmIf you do not want to add the ACE Salt Generation option to a Hotsprings tub is it possible to utilize chlorine as a sanitizer and add a mineral supplement to give the water a silky feeling? I'm looking for recommendations and peoples experiences.Right now that’s whet I’m doing. I have added salt to the same level if I had a salt to chlorine system and then I do my sanitizing with Dichlor and switching to household bleach once the proper stabilizer level is reached.