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I've been slimed (with full foam insulation)

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bud16415:
Kind of not sure I want to post in this thread but what the heck.

My tub has a dense pack fiber insulation called Fibercor. The study I did on this stuff tended to prove out the claims the dealer made about it. It is as good or better than sprayed foam in its insulating abilities. If a leak was to happen the moisture drains thru it and goes straight down making finding the leak easy. when the side panel is removed you just pull it out by the handful and put it in a box or bag. Once the repair is made you pack it back in by hand and replace the cover. My tub also has the heater on a different GFCI breaker than the rest of the tub. It doesn’t help with power failure in cold weather but around here power goes out for less than a day 99.999% of the time most of the time it is a couple hours is all. The most common loss of heat to the tub is a heater failure and in those cases my tub still has power to the pumps it recognizes heater loss and throws an alert and then puts the tub in survival mode, circulating water very slowly to use the stored heat in the water to keep the plumbing from freezing.

Living in a very cold place where we get winter temps down in the –30f range I liked both of these features and along with a tub we liked overall it helped us make our selection. The funny part was the sales guy quite experienced talked up the insulation up a lot and when I asked him why the tub had two GFCI’s didn’t have a clue. Going to the manufactures page didn’t explain it also and I had to dig on the internet to find out the reason.   

wondertubs:

--- Quote from: bud16415 on November 24, 2017, 12:41:03 pm ---My tub has a dense pack fiber insulation called Fibercor.
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That's funny, it looks like snow!  Right, you see... we use the "igloo principle" of insulating your hot tub: Snow is used because the air pockets trapped in it make it an insulator.


--- Quote from: Tman122 on November 24, 2017, 12:08:30 pm ---Then it was pointed out to them that the tub only needs to filter for 4 hours a day. What about the other 20 hours that the pumps aren't running. Or should they run the pumps extra to create the R-Factor? Seems kinda counter to the original though.

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Maybe it depends, some spas use reflective panels which could trap air pockets like that too, and I'd put the (small) tub inside an insulated room anyway—it isn't heated but there's no wind chill factor indoors there.  I guess if the room doesn't feel warmer around a covered tub, I'll know that's insulated well enough (or at least it would double as a space heater, which might be nice sometimes). Not to say it is as good or better than full foam, but if snow can be kept relatively warm inside, like an igloo (with body heat alone), then whatever, as long as my insulation doesn't turn into a sponge bath. Most of the topics I've read where someone was looking to replace a hot tub were to do with it leaking eventually, and the foam insulation complicated that or was not worth repairing (and in other videos they say you might not even know it leaked until you noticed a difference in energy consumption, but by then it's soaked). Whether one is a better value over-all seems to depend, it could go either way (yet I'd rather not encounter that particular issue if it leaked, especially if I don't have it outside in an extreme climate).

Spatech_tuo:
LOL, Wonderboy is still trying to pretend to be a consumer?

wondertubs:

--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on November 28, 2017, 11:30:37 am ---LOL, Wonderboy is still trying to pretend to be a consumer?

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As long as you change the subject, it's all good. I'll admit it is a boring conversation either way (except for the visuals, or hot tubbing that is).  As if I'd be offended for not being recognized as a "consumer": go eat more foam, why don't you... uh, no thanks.

Did you eat any foam by the way, paint maybe? Yeah, it's a rhetorical question, but I'd recommend using a dust mask in the future...

SerjicalStrike:
The subject of full foam has been gone through so much that it resides in the beating a dead horse section, which is where this one is headed for I imagine.

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