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all of that goes a really long way in an industry that I've quickly learned can be shady as hell.
Quote from: silversun on August 21, 2017, 08:32:46 pmall of that goes a really long way in an industry that I've quickly learned can be shady as hell. I think shady is a miss characterization. Some dealers and manufacturers use half facts as I call them, to explain how theirs is better. And pricing is open to as much as you can get.
Well, I could not wait until the weekend so I went and I tested 3 tubs last night; Sundance Chelsee, Bullfrog R7, Jacuzzi J-345. Although I originally liked the looks of the Chelsee better, the jest literally felt like I was being blasted with laser beams, hurt pretty bad. Even on the lowers setting it just did not hurt quite as much. The Jacuzzi was nice but more than I want/can spend right now. The bullfrog, although I really don't like the ambiance of the tub, felt the best by far. The jets actually seemed to have a purpose. The only issue with all of them is that I could not stay in the seats, any of them at all. Initial quote on the Bullfrog was for $7350 + tax (no negotiation yet, how low should I go in at) That includes delivery, setup, acrylic jetpacks, circ pump, ozone. Not sure what to do anymore. I float in all of them so I guess just go with the best jets?
This certainly points to the importance of wet testing. Floating in the seats isn't ideal, are those your only options?
Quote from: mjdieth on August 22, 2017, 08:32:49 amWell, I could not wait until the weekend so I went and I tested 3 tubs last night; Sundance Chelsee, Bullfrog R7, Jacuzzi J-345. Although I originally liked the looks of the Chelsee better, the jest literally felt like I was being blasted with laser beams, hurt pretty bad. Even on the lowers setting it just did not hurt quite as much. The Jacuzzi was nice but more than I want/can spend right now. The bullfrog, although I really don't like the ambiance of the tub, felt the best by far. The jets actually seemed to have a purpose. The only issue with all of them is that I could not stay in the seats, any of them at all. Initial quote on the Bullfrog was for $7350 + tax (no negotiation yet, how low should I go in at) That includes delivery, setup, acrylic jetpacks, circ pump, ozone. Not sure what to do anymore. I float in all of them so I guess just go with the best jets?This certainly points to the importance of wet testing. Floating in the seats isn't ideal, are those your only options?
Quote from: BullFrogSpasMN on August 21, 2017, 02:06:41 pmnobody cares about lights/waterfalls after 6 months...buy the spa that feels betterTrue, i'm just very disappointed that the more expensive R series looks worse than the X series. It is really odd that Bullfrog went that route.
nobody cares about lights/waterfalls after 6 months...buy the spa that feels better
I just purchased the X8L and we loved it. It is a huge tub that can actually COMFORTABLY fit 6 without touching legs!
Quote from: bradleyabell on August 24, 2017, 08:24:42 amI just purchased the X8L and we loved it. It is a huge tub that can actually COMFORTABLY fit 6 without touching legs!What are the jets like in it? I will not have the opportunity to wet test that model and wondered if there are different kinds of jets and what they do as they all look the same to me. I cannot find any information about it other than the number.
Quote from: mjdieth on August 24, 2017, 10:15:39 amQuote from: bradleyabell on August 24, 2017, 08:24:42 amI just purchased the X8L and we loved it. It is a huge tub that can actually COMFORTABLY fit 6 without touching legs!What are the jets like in it? I will not have the opportunity to wet test that model and wondered if there are different kinds of jets and what they do as they all look the same to me. I cannot find any information about it other than the number.They are def. not JetPaks, but yet they are comparable to other models that sell in the same price points, basically you get 4 different varieties, the small bullet style jets, directional jets higher pressure jets, then 2 different types of "spinners" 1 which has a single 'head' and the other is a triple 'head'...nice thing about the X series is that you can control pressure on each individual jet (including the smallest ones) WITHOUT have to use diverter knobs which are a major fail point
Quote from: BullFrogSpasMN on August 24, 2017, 01:39:36 pmQuote from: mjdieth on August 24, 2017, 10:15:39 amQuote from: bradleyabell on August 24, 2017, 08:24:42 amI just purchased the X8L and we loved it. It is a huge tub that can actually COMFORTABLY fit 6 without touching legs!What are the jets like in it? I will not have the opportunity to wet test that model and wondered if there are different kinds of jets and what they do as they all look the same to me. I cannot find any information about it other than the number.They are def. not JetPaks, but yet they are comparable to other models that sell in the same price points, basically you get 4 different varieties, the small bullet style jets, directional jets higher pressure jets, then 2 different types of "spinners" 1 which has a single 'head' and the other is a triple 'head'...nice thing about the X series is that you can control pressure on each individual jet (including the smallest ones) WITHOUT have to use diverter knobs which are a major fail pointYes we really liked this feature...We tried the jet packs and honestly were not that impressed. We didn't think it was worth the extra money to be able to "switch out" jet packs. I didn't see value in it. The jets are great though in the X series. We were able to get the very large X8L for under $7,000 with stairs, chemicals and a cover lifter thrown in+installation. We didn't think we wanted a lounger AT ALL...Until we wet tested the X8L and we fell in love with it and actually decided we NEEDED a lounger. If you are even considering it, ask the dealer to fill the tub for you to wet test. We had no issues with people helping us out with that. Just give them a few days to get it all set up.
WITHOUT have to use diverter knobs which are a major fail point