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You could be right. My problem is I want it all. Now, if you could cross the features and innovation of Arctic with the feel of a Beachcomber I would be a happy chap. I have tested a few other tubs, but narrowed it Beachcomber and Arctic, of which the Beachcomber felt the best, and some say that’s what counts. As far as build quality goes though, for me, Artic is far better. Temperatures here in Alberta can drop to -30 in the winter, and despite what Beachcomber say, in the event of a prolonged power outage, I feel having pumps outside of the main enclosure is not a good idea. Also, I don’t like the fact that the base of the Beachcomber is not sealed. If you ask me, another problem with all that foam is that it could make a very nice spot for insects etc to make home during the winter. Beachcomber say, one of the main reasons they keep the pumps outside of the main unit, is to keep them cool in hot climates. Need I say more? According to Arctic the main reason Beachcomber introduced the circulation pump was to keep the pump enclosure warm during the winter. Beachcomber on the other hand say, Arctics practice of enclosing the pump in the free air space under the tub works fine in winter, but can lead to over heating in the summer. If this is true, could I not simply remove one of the eight access doors during the summer?
How do I get sucked into these still? It's not like I SELL Beachcomber. Steve
Oh my Cowtown friend.... The HE SAID, SHE SAID game is one you don't want to get caught up in. You seem to be of the impression that Arctic is a better built product? I would go back and look again. I'm not sure what you're basing that on?? As far as cold tempertures, do you know how long Beachcomber has been in business? Do you know that 1 in 3 tubs sold in Canada is a Beachcomber? They've been doing the Protec design for 17 years. It's been done a long time and you aren't the first customer to be sold this design. Obviously your salesmen (both) are shmucks. :-/The base of the tub isn't "sealed" eh? Ok... let's look closer. What is your tub sitting on? A concrete pad? Sidewalk blocks? This means that either those critters need to eat through the cement or through the pressure treated kickplate that surrounds the bottom of the tub. If you're concerned about that, why consider a tub with so many access panels into an empty, warm cabinet? UmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmThe pump isn't outside to keep them cool in warm climates at ALL. That salesman should be selling shoes or underwear. It's to insulate ALL 4 SIDES of the tub. It will give you an R42 insulation factor. It's more quiet, more energy efficient, has less vibration and gives more interior space within the spa. Tell me that he said this as well to you? According to Arctic? Let them sell their own crap. They have NO CLUE why other companies do what they do. They are just selling AGAINST it. The Hush pump is fantastic and if you skipped over that, go back to your Beachcomber and listen to that tub run. You won't hear it and it draws .6 amps while running. It's also filtering 42,000 gallons of water a day. Pretty amazing wouldn't you say? If what they are saying was seriously true, why would Bechcomber have cooling vents on the front of that step? Another Hmmmmmmmmm.Here's a good question to take to your Arctic guy. They are trying to tell you that less insulation is better right and the pumps are generating enough heat to keep that cabinet warm in -30 temps right? When do the pumps put off a LOT of heat? When you're in it right? So let's look at this...If you use that spa 1 hour a day, that will mean that the pumps aren't generating significant heat 23 out of the 24 hours right? It's on a low speed or not on at all. Now what's keeping that cabinet warm in the winter? 3rd Hmmmmmmm. Comfort and therapy are the key's. Beachcomber is the second largest company in the world and though your Arctic buddy might not understand, 10's of thousands do.How do I get sucked into these still? It's not like I SELL Beachcomber. You also mentioned that you got better therapy from less jets and smaller pumps. Welcome to spa design 101. All that means is that you're getting more for less. Doesn't it also make more sense that you will be spending less to operate that tub as well because of less HP? A resounding YES! Say it with me.... YES!! The bottom line is that you are getting very poor information from both of those morons. Not to mention they'll tell ya anything to get the sale.Go buy a Beachcomber and be happy. Beachcomber has 6 or 7 thousand tubs in our city (Edmonton) and last year alone we reached -55 with the windchills. They've been here for 21 years selling Beachcomber so do you really think they are that prone to problems? NOPE. Go right now and get it. Why are you still sitting here.... GO. (High pressure sales.... I love it! )Steve
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