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Chlorine Causes WHAT!!!!?
« on: December 06, 2005, 06:22:06 pm »
I had a guy call yesterday that wanted to hook up an ozonator to a softub. He was trying to tell me that ozone takes care of all the bacteria in your tub accept for one kind that you can use some kind of enzyme to get out. After going back and forth about having to use chlorine with ozone he got on to the "chlorine causes cancer" kick. He said he saw research where a rat that drank water with chlorine got cancer. At the end of the conversation I told my co-worker about it and he pointed out I forgot to mention to this guy that ozone supposedly causes cancer. Oh well.

Any of you dealers get people going crazy about chlorine and cancer?

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Chlorine Causes WHAT!!!!?
« on: December 06, 2005, 06:22:06 pm »

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Re: Chlorine Causes WHAT!!!!?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2005, 07:24:53 pm »
Some day I expect they'll find that cancer is hereditary in white mice.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2005, 07:29:05 pm »
I heard the rat in question used 2000+ cel phone minutes every month also. I guess we will never know.

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2005, 07:40:37 pm »
The rat was also probably from California and everything is known to cause cancer in the state of California.

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2005, 07:51:51 pm »
some years ago there was a study that proved carrots caused cancer. of course to duplicate the test in humans you'd have to eat 20 pounds of carrots a day for 3 years.......... and live in California  ;D

Actually though, I believe what your customer is talking about is that there's a very rare bacteria (might be an algai.... old guy here, bad memory), when chlorine kills and oxidizes it, what's left behind is a carcinogen. The issue though is that you HAVE to ingest it for it to be a problem.

REMEMBER, if it weren't for chlorine more than 85% of the world's population would not have clean safe drinking water.............. to the point that it's estimated that without chlorinated drinking water the world as we know it today would be rather sparsly populated.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2005, 08:02:39 pm »
He was actually claiming that ozone by itself (with no other sanitation) killed everything but one type that could be taken care of with some enzyme.

85% huh? So the New World Order would be happy to remove chlorine from the drinking water.


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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2005, 08:04:36 am »
I've become very cynical of all these cancer claims.  Seems that every few years they change their minds on what is dangerous.  
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Which is it?  Bad or Good?
They warned us about coffee and caffeine and now say it's ok.  They said don't eat eggs, now it's ok.  
If ozone in spas, bromine, chlorine, whatever, was as dangerous as some would have us believe, we'd all be bumping into each other at oncology clinics.   ::)
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2005, 08:34:32 am »
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How true!!  I once saw a study that claimed that the exchange of O2 in the lungs actually produces a carcinogen (translation: breathing causes cancer  :o ).  I guess if that's true, we're all doomed  ;D.

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2005, 12:49:54 pm »
ok, not to get too off track about cancer (which i often say breathing is the leading cause of everything!!  ;D ), this tid bit has to do with music.
remember all those claims that ozzy's music caused all these people to commit suicide? well, years ago there was a story that said country music listeners were more likely to take themselves out than a rock listener.
guess they should be listening to country backwards...wont feel so bad if you get everything back  ;D

ok ok....bad joke i know. couldnt resist though.... my appologiese to the country listeners

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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2005, 02:04:37 pm »
I love that joke!  

What happens when you play country music backwards?

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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2005, 05:02:20 pm »
I have heard...but I have no idea where from...that onions have as much cancer causing junk in them than the chlorine in our drinking water.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2005, 05:20:02 pm »
Some people are very strange, even moreso when the topics of chlorine, flouride, hydrogen peroxide, ozone, and silver ions are involved.  These folks sometimes remind me of the colonel in Dr. Strangelove and his concern that flouride was "stealing our precious bodily fluids."

For example, I had a slam-dunk sale the other day.  The gentleman's BIL had bought two spas from me and he was ready to buy one, too.  When the question of the feasibility of installing an ozonator came up, I told him the truth:  as long as they're working, they're great.  But, they don't last forever.

Him: "So, you don't like ozone?"

Me: "Well, it has it's place.  It won't make your spa chemical-free if that's what you've been told.  It will supplement your water-care regimen."

Him: "What have you got against ozone?  I have one hooked up to my drinking water.  It's great."

Me: "I have nothing against ozone.  If you want one on your spa, we'll put it on there."

Him: "I think ozone is wonderful.  Why don't you think it's the way to go?"

Me: "I think it's great, too.  I'm just telling you it's not something you NEED.  I'll be happy to put an ozonator on your spa."

Him: "Huh!  Ozone is the way to go.  If you don't like ozone, maybe I'll buy a spa from someplace that does."

Me: "For the record, I like ozone.  I would love to sell you one.  If that's what you want, we'll do it for you."

Him: "No, I don't think you like ozone.  I'll get back to you."

Haven't heard from him since.  Oh, well.............

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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2005, 07:42:35 pm »
I heard today that people who eat beef from cows who inhaled second-hand smoke are more than three times more likely to die. Eventually.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2005, 11:33:37 pm »
Next thing you know, someone will be telling me that cigars are carcinogenic!

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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2005, 12:01:34 pm »
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I heard today that people who eat beef from cows who inhaled second-hand smoke are more than three times more likely to die. Eventually.


now THAT is funny
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