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You are flat wrong about this. It's not a manifold just like any other hot tub. It's a patented and unique design. The connections are done with a sonic weld rather than hand glued. It is a different system that a lot people believe is better. There is significantly less plumbing in a Bullfrog Spa, plain and simple. Less plumbing absolutely does have an effect on the system. All of this is fact. I'm not trying to argue and fight about it, it's just that you always say something when Bullfrog is brought up. You don't believe in the benefits of their system, but quite a few people do. I personally know hundreds of people who have had other spas and now have Bullfrog. They pretty much unanimously think it's a better system. Referrals from these people are driving significant growth. I see it every single day.
Quote from: hottubdan on July 04, 2016, 06:17:16 pmSo, after all the BF BS pro and con, which one...Hot Spring, Bullfrog, Sundance, Jacuzzi.Bullfrog may be growing. Hot Spring #1 selling brand. #1 selling brand, with 4 different series of spa's 5 if you count Free-flow under the HS brand might as well throw caldera in there as well, which they probably do and always have. Bullfrog has 2 lines and I believe out sold HS in the last 2 years and counting.
So, after all the BF BS pro and con, which one...Hot Spring, Bullfrog, Sundance, Jacuzzi.Bullfrog may be growing. Hot Spring #1 selling brand.
When a pump pushes water to a place where it is split into smaller flows and continues to different places it is a MANIFOLD.
Quote from: Tman122 on July 04, 2016, 08:46:39 pmWhen a pump pushes water to a place where it is split into smaller flows and continues to different places it is a MANIFOLD. By definition you are correct. By design, you sound like a bullheaded idiot. A tin can with some holes in it could be called a manifold...
All I wanna know is did you get a chance to wet test the A7L/R7L or any other tubs?
Had the opportunity to wet test a 2016 Jacuzzi J-365, a 2014 Jacuzzi J-480, a 2015 Sundance Optima, and a 2016 Bullfrog A7. We went in anticipating that we were going to go with Bullfrog, but the seating wasn't as comfortable as the other tubs and felt that the Bullfrog finished in 4th place for us. We were most comfortable in the Jacuzzis and felt that the foot dome of the J-480 was unbelievable. Although I liked the J-480 and the lounge seat, the dealer was also closing out a 2014 J-470 floor model that had never been filled with full warranty and we chose that for a couple of reasons. First, the J-480 was $2,200 higher than the J-470 because it had a stereo which we didn't want or need and we preferred the color of the J-470. We got the J-470 for $10,600 including the steps, cover, chemicals, a CoverMate 3 lifter, spa handrail, delivery and set-up. I think we got a pretty good deal and more tub for our money than some of the others we were considering. Our experience proves that you have to wet test. Otherwise, you may be happy with a good tub but not the great tub that's out there for you.
I must say, and this is just a oberservation, but Bullfrog is brought up on this forum way more now than it was even 2-3 years ago. I remember they would be mentioned once in a while, but never like this. I remember that guy named swell tub was looking at them. He even went to the factory where they were made, but he ultimately bought a Jacuzzi. I know a lot has changed with Bullfrog since then though, and it appears to be working. They have a huge presence here now. Even Jacuzzi Jim is Bullfrog Jim now! . I have no dog in the fight as we really don't have a local dealer in our area (over 80 miles away). But, I can tell they are definitely a major player in the game these days.
Quote from: Water Boy on July 05, 2016, 12:04:18 amI must say, and this is just a oberservation, but Bullfrog is brought up on this forum way more now than it was even 2-3 years ago. I remember they would be mentioned once in a while, but never like this. I remember that guy named swell tub was looking at them. He even went to the factory where they were made, but he ultimately bought a Jacuzzi. I know a lot has changed with Bullfrog since then though, and it appears to be working. They have a huge presence here now. Even Jacuzzi Jim is Bullfrog Jim now! . I have no dog in the fight as we really don't have a local dealer in our area (over 80 miles away). But, I can tell they are definitely a major player in the game these days.WB are you still with Arctic? Or was it Blue Falls?They had/have a good thing going also, Solid product. Embellished a bit sometimes like the others but a solid tub. They still sell them in Minnesota so........crappy brands don't last here. (Compliment)
Congratulations, sudden! Sounds like you got a great tub at a great price. You mentioned you had the opportunity to wet test a J-480. How was your experience with the J-480? J-480 is a "finalist" tub, along with J-375 and Sundance Maxxus, but I'm having a hard time deciding and haven't been able to wet test a J-480. I'm curious what you liked and what you did not like about the J-480. In particular, how was the lounger? Do you feel the J-480 lounger would be comfortable for someone who is 6'0" tall? Any insight you can share about your impressions of the J-480 are very much appreciated. Thanks a million! Enjoy that hot tub!!The J-480 was a great tub. We were sold on the foot dome and all of the seats were comfortable with powerful jets. I had a lounger in my prior tub (Hot Springs Sovereign) and was planning on getting another. But, I could justify a $2K difference between the two floor models just to get the lounger. I'm only 5'8" and felt just as comfortable in one of the corner seats with the foot dome. In my view, the Jacuzzi 400 series tubs were superior to the 300 series, especially since the floor model prices were essentially the same as the price for a wrapped 300 series tub. Although I tested the Sundance Optima rather than the Maxxus, I think they have the same foot dome and I much preferred the Jacuzzi to the Sundance