Attn: Gun totin, womanizin, alky!

[East_TX_Spa]

There's a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatos.

Terminator

[Brewman]

Right next to the garlic mashed's is the seat of honor.

I am a member of PETA.  People Eating Tasty Animals.

[drewstar]

Hey all you gun toting womanizin alkys (Term, Lt Dan I'm looking in your direction)  have you seen this site?

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/theboxotruth.htm

Interesting.  It shows the effects of different rounds, the section on body armor was surprising to me.

[Brewman]

I always thought it was, guns don't kill people, people kill people.
  

Bullseye, Brooke.

But these types don't like to blame actual people for their actions, that would be politically incorrect.  It's easier to blame the tools of a criminal, usually their guns, than to blame the crime on the person who did it.
That would take some sand, and most of these types don't have any.  Plus you also have to blame another non person entity- society or ourselves.
What did we do to cause these people to act this way?
Right.  Blame anyone or anything except the actor.

Using that logic (actually illogic), cars kill WAY more people than guns do, but you don't hear anyone calling for them being banned.  

[East_TX_Spa]

Keep telling it like it is Brewman, you are on a roll!!!!

Ninjas kill more people than guns do.
Platypus's kill more people than guns do.
Killer Bees kill more people than guns do.
So do pot-bellied pigs, monkeys and apes (especially those damned dirty chimps!), rattlesnakes, Sumo wrestlers, doctors, fat bearded ladies, pastry chefs, and Moonies.

And that's the truth.

Terminator  

[LtDan]

Hey all you gun toting womanizin alkys (Term, Lt Dan I'm looking in your direction)  have you seen this site?

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/theboxotruth.htm

Interesting.  It shows the effects of different rounds, the section on body armor was surprising to me.

That's an interesting site, thanks.

[drewstar]

That's an interesting site, thanks.

Have you ever seen the high speed photo's of bullets traveling through different items? (Ballons, apples etc) They are very cool:



Others are here, and I am sure google can find even more:

http://ammoman.com/gunshots.html

[LtDan]

PM me your email and I'll send you some of bullets going through people.

[East_TX_Spa]

You know mine!

I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.....

Terminator

[drewstar]

no thanks.  

I've seen some nasty nasty pics of that kind of stuff and I prefer to fill what few remaining brain cells  I have with images more in line to Terms private hot tub model pics.  

[LtDan]

You need some bad with the good, it's all about balance you know.

[East_TX_Spa]

Yep, ying and yang and wang-dang-doodle.

Terminator

[Chris_H]

Personally, I am not a gun person.  I don’t believe in them. I don’t own one.  I don’t think I will never own one.  I think streets are safer when people don’t have them.

However, I understand that people want to own them, do own them, and it is their rite to own them.  

In Pennsylvania, there was a murder that made the news nationally where an 18 year old murdered his girlfriend’s parents with, I believe, his parents weapons.  My question to all of you is this, if he had limited access to his parent’s weapons or if his parents had no weapons would the murders have happened?  

Also for the ones on this site that own guns, his parents owned 54 guns.  Why does one need 54 guns?

Here is the article of the 18 year old if you haven’t heard of the case:  

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/14/parents.slain/

Sorry if my comments ruffle some feathers.

Chris

[East_TX_Spa]

He was an 18-year old adult with his mind set on killing his underage girlfriend's parents.  Could've used a knife and butchered them, could've burned down their house and roasted them alive, could've poisoned them, etc, etc, etc.....

He was a criminal.  Too bad the parents weren't armed or the right person might have died.  Can't let them catch you unarmed.  Criminals go armed, law-abiding citizens should in order to protect themselves from those who aren't law-abiding.

Terminator

[drewstar]

Chris,

I don't think that your posts ruffle any feathers. It's a legitimate question.  

Jon Lott is an economist who attempted to take a look at gun owership and crime statistics.  His research indicates More guns, less crime.  (Which became the name of his book).

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/493636.html

I hope this doens't come out sounding trite, but the tragedy in PA is the exception, not the rule and we could argue to the point of ad nasuem of what would have happend if there wasn't any guns in the house? (Would they have been stabbed, beaten, burned?).