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Quote from: chem geek on July 13, 2014, 02:03:57 amAs for hydrogen peroxide wear on hot tub components, see this post, this post, and these posts. Also, this manual ("Please avoid using any spa chemicals that contain Hydrogen Peroxide. Hydrogen Peroxide based spa chemicals have been found to react adversely with the materials used to produce these components.") and this manual ("Alps Spas strongly discourages the use of chemicals that contain Hydrogen Peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide will eventually cause the light body and lenses (used on all spas) to become brittle and crack.").glad I read those , but I don't think I was going to try it anyway ( no way I am now ) but that was my guys take on it mostly , makes things "brittle" over time (who needs that ?) hard on seals and the problems wouldn't show up until the warranty period was over ......again , I don't know if its true or not but im not chancing it.....maybe people that ARE using it can update on it after at least 3 to 5 years of use and see if there were any side effects ?
As for hydrogen peroxide wear on hot tub components, see this post, this post, and these posts. Also, this manual ("Please avoid using any spa chemicals that contain Hydrogen Peroxide. Hydrogen Peroxide based spa chemicals have been found to react adversely with the materials used to produce these components.") and this manual ("Alps Spas strongly discourages the use of chemicals that contain Hydrogen Peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide will eventually cause the light body and lenses (used on all spas) to become brittle and crack.").
.....I know that my TA is low, but it needs to be at 30 for my PH to stay stable during aeration. My TA was also at 30 during my initial fill..... .....glad I read those , but I don't think I was going to try it anyway ( no way I am now ) but that was my guys take on it mostly , makes things "brittle" over time (who needs that ?) hard on seals and the problems wouldn't show up until the warranty period was over ......again , I don't know if its true or not but im not chancing it.....maybe people that ARE using it can update on it after at least 3 to 5 years of use and see if there were any side effects ?.....As I said we are using hydrogen peroxide.... and will continue to do so.....the main reason we started using hydrogen peroxide is that my wife has some pretty serious chemical sensitivities and we just didnt want to chance either chlorine or bromine. After having used it for a while now, we love it. No chemical smell, no dry skin, skin feels almost smooth or moisturized after a soak. For us so far, it is a great alternative.
us guy's, what do we care, we will sit in battery acid as long as we have a beer,
Quote from: clover on July 13, 2014, 02:45:11 pm us guy's, what do we care, we will sit in battery acid as long as we have a beer, [/b]There IS truth on the internet !......can I use that as my sig?
Quote from: Quickbeam on July 12, 2014, 12:50:44 pm.....I know that my TA is low, but it needs to be at 30 for my PH to stay stable during aeration. My TA was also at 30 during my initial fill..... .....glad I read those , but I don't think I was going to try it anyway ( no way I am now ) but that was my guys take on it mostly , makes things "brittle" over time (who needs that ?) hard on seals and the problems wouldn't show up until the warranty period was over ......again , I don't know if its true or not but im not chancing it.....maybe people that ARE using it can update on it after at least 3 to 5 years of use and see if there were any side effects ?.....As I said we are using hydrogen peroxide.... and will continue to do so.....the main reason we started using hydrogen peroxide is that my wife has some pretty serious chemical sensitivities and we just didn’t want to chance either chlorine or bromine. After having used it for a while now, we love it. No chemical smell, no dry skin, skin feels almost smooth or moisturized after a soak. For us so far, it is a great alternative.Quickbeam, There are always 2 side to any coin, and as for consequences, only time will tell the truth. What I don't understand is why you feel compelled to keep your alkalinity low when it needs to be in the 80-120 range, your pH is elevated, and yet you're willing to take it higher to 7.8.....after you made a reference in a recent post, "no chemical smell, no dry skin, skin feels almost smooth or moisturized", which means you are familiar with these conditions. Your skin is pH neutral in the 7.2 to 7.6 range, higher, or lower, will give you dry skin, and females will avoid it. As for alkalinity being out of range, it needs to be adjusted first, as pH will not stabilize and stay where it belongs until alkalinity is in the proper range. Adjust your alkalinity first, THEN, adjust pH up or down as necessary, and it will stabilize. When you smell, ding, ding, ding, your "smeller tester" is going off, indicating attention is needed. I know that time has past, but if your pH is not 7.2 to 7.6, and your alkalinity is not in the 80 - 120 range, you will have water problems, and gas off the water (the smell).Unless the water is right on, the ladies loose interest, us guy's, what do we care, we will sit in battery acid as long as we have a beer, but ladies are different. We are dealing with water chemistry here and everything is said to be able to provide results, but as you can see, there are 2 sides to every coin. Have you considered using ozone on your spa?
.....I know that my TA is low, but it needs to be at 30 for my PH to stay stable during aeration. My TA was also at 30 during my initial fill..... .....glad I read those , but I don't think I was going to try it anyway ( no way I am now ) but that was my guys take on it mostly , makes things "brittle" over time (who needs that ?) hard on seals and the problems wouldn't show up until the warranty period was over ......again , I don't know if its true or not but im not chancing it.....maybe people that ARE using it can update on it after at least 3 to 5 years of use and see if there were any side effects ?.....As I said we are using hydrogen peroxide.... and will continue to do so.....the main reason we started using hydrogen peroxide is that my wife has some pretty serious chemical sensitivities and we just didn’t want to chance either chlorine or bromine. After having used it for a while now, we love it. No chemical smell, no dry skin, skin feels almost smooth or moisturized after a soak. For us so far, it is a great alternative.
What I don't understand is why you feel compelled to keep your alkalinity low when it needs to be in the 80-120 range, your pH is elevated, and yet you're willing to take it higher to 7.8.....after you made a reference in a recent post, "no chemical smell, no dry skin, skin feels almost smooth or moisturized", which means you are familiar with these conditions. Your skin is pH neutral in the 7.2 to 7.6 range, higher, or lower, will give you dry skin, and females will avoid it. As for alkalinity being out of range, it needs to be adjusted first, as pH will not stabilize and stay where it belongs until alkalinity is in the proper range. Adjust your alkalinity first, THEN, adjust pH up or down as necessary, and it will stabilize. When you smell, ding, ding, ding, your "smeller tester" is going off, indicating attention is needed. I know that time has past, but if your pH is not 7.2 to 7.6, and your alkalinity is not in the 80 - 120 range, you will have water problems, and gas off the water (the smell).