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I wouldn't say the Caldera is anymore energy efficient and certainly not 4x as efficient. The construction and she'll on the marquis are going to be better. You are looking at a high end tub and a entry level tub so you aren't really comparing apples to apples. The 2 pump promise has a ton of power and actually has 48 jets on the 2 pump version. Caldera makes a nice tub but the marquis is a much better tub in the signature line them the vacanza series caldera
Quote from: Hottubguy on March 25, 2014, 12:21:27 pmI wouldn't say the Caldera is anymore energy efficient and certainly not 4x as efficient. The construction and she'll on the marquis are going to be better. You are looking at a high end tub and a entry level tub so you aren't really comparing apples to apples. The 2 pump promise has a ton of power and actually has 48 jets on the 2 pump version. Caldera makes a nice tub but the marquis is a much better tub in the signature line them the vacanza series calderaHow exactly is the construction and shell better on the Marquis? That's a very general statement and I think they're comparable even though they are different. As far as insulation, the Vacanza switched to the Fibercor material which has tested as being a serious improvement in energy efficiency over simply filling the cavity with 1/2 pound foam as Caldera used to have and most other brands use but I'm not sure where the 4x comes from. The Vacanza series has been a winner from day one but of course he could upgrade to the Paradise or Utopia models which are similarly priced to the Promise if he chose to but I assume he was looking at the Vacanza due in part to the cost savings which is noticeable.Both Caldera and Marguis are good choices really.
If I were to upgrade to the Caldera Paradise series with the Martinique what would be the benefits beyond the warranty? The sales person said the shells are the same? I was told that the Martinique has a 24 hour circulation pump and freeze protection, while the Promise does not have these features. Is that correct?
Quote from: Hot Spring Ace on March 25, 2014, 02:44:21 pmQuote from: Hottubguy on March 25, 2014, 12:21:27 pmI wouldn't say the Caldera is anymore energy efficient and certainly not 4x as efficient. The construction and she'll on the marquis are going to be better. You are looking at a high end tub and a entry level tub so you aren't really comparing apples to apples. The 2 pump promise has a ton of power and actually has 48 jets on the 2 pump version. Caldera makes a nice tub but the marquis is a much better tub in the signature line them the vacanza series calderaHow exactly is the construction and shell better on the Marquis? That's a very general statement and I think they're comparable even though they are different. As far as insulation, the Vacanza switched to the Fibercor material which has tested as being a serious improvement in energy efficiency over simply filling the cavity with 1/2 pound foam as Caldera used to have and most other brands use but I'm not sure where the 4x comes from. The Vacanza series has been a winner from day one but of course he could upgrade to the Paradise or Utopia models which are similarly priced to the Promise if he chose to but I assume he was looking at the Vacanza due in part to the cost savings which is noticeable.Both Caldera and Marguis are good choices really.Isn't the vacanza series the same shell as what a hot spot uses? That would be like a Hot Springs dealer saying there is no difference in construction between the Hot Spots and the High lifes. Of course there is. But to answer the question, The cabinet on the Marquis is thicker and of higher quality materials, the bottom is completely sealed with an ABS pan (don't think that's true on the Vacanza series pretty sure it's just a sheet stapled to the bottom), The warranty on the structure is double, warranty on components is 5 versus 2. Like I said before Caldera makes a fine tub but he isn't comparing apples to apples. The proper comparison would be to the Utopia series or the E-series or celebrity series Caldera to the vacanza
Well I guess I was wrong then. I thought the shell material in the vacanza series was like the hot spot version of hot springs. Last time I saw a vacanza the shell didn't look as heavy duty as the there other series tubs.