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So I've narrowed my search to these two, checked them both out and heard the spiel from both salesmen subtly putting the boot into rivals while extolling the virtues of their own. The Envoy was great when I wet-tested it but I can't wet test the Jacuzzi to test whether the jets etc are as good as the Envoy as it can't be filled in the showroom. It's a couple of thousand more expensive but I get a decent deal if I buy the latest 2013 model before 26 April. Just wondering head to head whether anyone had any views as to which is the better hot tub. Are both brands similarly reliable? Am I just paying extra for the Jacuzzi name so will the Envoy be just as good? As I'm interested in the massaging qualities, does one have a better reputation for that than the other? The Envoy has ACE cleaning whereas the Jacuzzi salesman said they had reverted to UV cleaning using a bulb as ACE tended to make the headrests etc brittle and there were complaints from users that it degraded the inside of the tub.Any observations out there that might make my decision easier?